Speaker John Boehner’s decision to back President Obama on Syria was a mistake, according to Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.).
“If you’re Speaker of the House and you’re going to take a position in support of the war, which is contrary to what the vast majority of Americans believe, it might be nice to call up your GOP conference and say, ‘Hey, this is what we plan to do,’ but we didn’t get any of that,” said Amash, who is a frequent critic of GOP leadership.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013
I don't know. I think it was strategic. Everyone knows it is unpopular and probably won't pass the house. By "supporting the president" our leadership is not a target for the rats who want to vote this down, only Obama is.
Quote: Justme wrote in post #2I don't know. I think it was strategic. Everyone knows it is unpopular and probably won't pass the house. By "supporting the president" our leadership is not a target for the rats who want to vote this down, only Obama is.
I see a pattern.
With immigration and now Syria: Mighty John Boehner says something which seems to move toward Obama knowing, all the while, the GOP votes aren't there.
This takes the target off MJB's back (except from the far-right) because it seems "bipartisan" which is the most cherished commodity among low-info folks.
Then, later MJB can say (and perhaps cry while doing so), "Gee, Prez, I tried to get the guys to go along but they just aren't buying your BS any more."
Quote: Justme wrote in post #2I don't know. I think it was strategic. Everyone knows it is unpopular and probably won't pass the house. By "supporting the president" our leadership is not a target for the rats who want to vote this down, only Obama is.
Yeah right. Because Pelosi Reid and Zero are not going to slam the GOP anyway? That is silly. If Boner would have gone to the caucus and said what he thought they should do, he may have been tipped off that the base, and Americans in general do not want this turd. Instead, we have him on the record backing this stupidity. Bad move and poorly thought out. Typical of Drunk Johnny.
Quote: Justme wrote in post #2I don't know. I think it was strategic. Everyone knows it is unpopular and probably won't pass the house. By "supporting the president" our leadership is not a target for the rats who want to vote this down, only Obama is.
Yeah right. Because Pelosi Reid and Zero are not going to slam the GOP anyway? That is silly. If Boner would have gone to the caucus and said what he thought they should do, he may have been tipped off that the base, and Americans in general do not want this turd. Instead, we have him on the record backing this stupidity. Bad move and poorly thought out. Typical of Drunk Johnny.
But it's not about them slamming him, it's about the smaller players; the racists and the honest democrats who don't want intervention having to choose btwn Republican Leaders or Obama. The only choice now is with or against Zero.
I may be an optimist, I know, but I still have faith in our guys for the most part.
Quote: Justme wrote in post #2I don't know. I think it was strategic. Everyone knows it is unpopular and probably won't pass the house. By "supporting the president" our leadership is not a target for the rats who want to vote this down, only Obama is.
Yeah right. Because Pelosi Reid and Zero are not going to slam the GOP anyway? That is silly. If Boner would have gone to the caucus and said what he thought they should do, he may have been tipped off that the base, and Americans in general do not want this turd. Instead, we have him on the record backing this stupidity. Bad move and poorly thought out. Typical of Drunk Johnny.
Agreed.
Boehner could have played off the fact most Americans, including many Democrats and Independents do not want War with Syria.
He could have pointed out the lack of evidence as to who was responsible for the chemical attacks, pointed out Amnesty International's condemnation of both sides being 'war criminals', pointed out the use of chemical weapons was not a threat to US national security, and pointed out Russia's 100 page report which presented a chemical analysis that yielded a high index of suspicion that the 'rebels' were responsible.
Finally Boehner could have pointed out here was an instance in which the R's were not playing partisan politics (one of most American's pet peeves) but were joining the D's in representing the will of the American people. Being for the will of the American people would have been a shrewd end run around the false choice of being for for against Obama.
Quote: Justme wrote in post #2I don't know. I think it was strategic. Everyone knows it is unpopular and probably won't pass the house. By "supporting the president" our leadership is not a target for the rats who want to vote this down, only Obama is.
Yeah right. Because Pelosi Reid and Zero are not going to slam the GOP anyway? That is silly. If Boner would have gone to the caucus and said what he thought they should do, he may have been tipped off that the base, and Americans in general do not want this turd. Instead, we have him on the record backing this stupidity. Bad move and poorly thought out. Typical of Drunk Johnny.
Agreed.
Boehner could have played off the fact most Americans, including many Democrats and Independents do not want War with Syria.
He could have pointed out the lack of evidence as to who was responsible for the chemical attacks, pointed out Amnesty International's condemnation of both sides being 'war criminals', pointed out the use of chemical weapons was not a threat to US national security, and pointed out Russia's 100 page report which presented a chemical analysis that yielded a high index of suspicion that the 'rebels' were responsible.
Finally Boehner could have pointed out here was an instance in which the R's were not playing partisan politics (one of most American's pet peeves) but were joining the D's in representing the will of the American people. Being for the will of the American people would have been a shrewd end run around the false choice of being for for against Obama.
Now, you're in favor of Speaker Boehner following the will of the people?
See: Defunding Obamacare (to name just one issue).