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It’s very appealing when Cruz says he wants to fund the government, piece by piece, and simply omit funding for Obamacare. It sounds like a real strategy.

Unfortunately, he’s glossing over a major technical detail that sinks the whole thing: The funding for Obamacare does not depend on the government spending bill (the “continuing resolution”) that Cruz has now announced he will block from getting a vote on the Senate floor.

Obamacare gets funded whether that bill passes or not. So there’s no such thing as funding the rest of the government and “leaving out” funding for Obamacare. If there was, this whole thing might almost make sense. There would be real leverage.

The whole concept of “defund” is to block funding for other, unrelated government functions until Democrats agree to trade away funding for Obamacare. This detail is vital — and I’m convinced that most conservatives who have bought into this strategy have been misled to believe we can hold off Obamacare for a while with a government shutdown. Cruz has repeatedly said, as he does in the interview above, that he’s just trying to keep Democrats from funding Obamacare. But that’s a bit misleading. Obamacare is already funded, and that won’t change if this bill gets stalled by a filibuster. During the shutdown, the Marines don’t get paid, but Obamacare gets funded.

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Many defenders of the “defund” strategy — and I don’t mean Senate staffers or political operatives, but just ordinary conservatives with real lives and families and jobs and low-profile Twitter accounts — have thrown this argument at me. I’ve got it all wrong, they say — the whole point of “defund” is to put the Democrats on the record.
Well, I’m sorry, but Ted Cruz says you’re wrong, and you don’t have to take my word for it. His plan is to spare the Democrats from taking that vote until the issue of Obamacare has been completely eclipsed by the prolonged government shutdown he wants to force.

- See more at: http://www.conservativeintel.com/2013/09...h.1GtlshUs.dpuf

This defunding gimmick is one of those things that sounds real good....until reality sets in.

Cruz and Lee have not only split the GOP with this brain dead move, they've split the Tea Party, too.

Even fellow Tea Party favorite, Rand Paul, won't go along with it!

This thing is a real mess.

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I know because everything is so peachy and runs so well--BACK TO THE STAUS QUO

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The we can't do it crowd is saying it--I am tired of 800 to 1000 people in washington telling me what they do can't be undone even if WE THE PEOPLE don't like it--it's BS

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The we can't do it crowd is saying it--I am tired of 800 to 1000 people in washington telling me what they do can't be undone even if WE THE PEOPLE don't like it--it's BS

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Shutting down the government won’t defund Obamacare: Almost all Obamacare spending is “mandatory spending.” Obamacare authorized that spending until the end of time, and it doesn’t need to be appropriated every year. So under a government shutdown, we’d run out of discretionary spending, but most of Obamacare would keep humming. Click

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[ I guess it will make for great fundraising pleas.

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I'm done reading these things. Every day the PTB continue making this all about GOP infighting it detracts from the fact that the Sheeple actually don't WANT this piece of crap shoved down their throats.

Scarborough, Rove, Nicole Wallace, and the rest of the cool kids will continue to beat the drum ad finitum. I can't take it anymore. I think I'll go do something productive, like clean my oven.

Somebody call me when Cruz takes the floor.

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