Yahoo!News
January 3, 2013

Back in 2009, President Obama’s “Cash for Clunkers” program was supposed to be a boon for the environment and the economy. During a limited time, consumers could trade in an old gas-guzzling used car for up to $4,500 cash back towards the purchase of a fuel-efficient new car. It seemed like a win for everyone: the environment, the gasping auto industry and cash-strapped consumers.

Though almost a million people poured into car dealerships eager to exchange their old jalopies for something shiny and new, recent reports indicate the entire program may have actually hurt the environment far more than it helped.

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The program's first mistake seems to have been its focus on car shredding, instead of car recycling. With 690,000 vehicles traded in, that's a pretty big mistake.
According to the Automotive Recyclers Association (ARA), automobiles are almost completely recyclable, down to their engine oil and brake fluid. But many of the “Cash for Clunkers” cars were never sent to recycling facilities. The agency reports that the cars’ engines were instead destroyed by federal mandate, in order to prevent dealers from illicitly reselling the vehicles later.
The remaining parts of each car could then be put up for auction, but program guidelines also required that after 180 days, no matter how much of the car was left, the parts woud be sent to a junkyard and shredded.

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This is what I didn't get. The idiots in the zer0 administration really didn't think about the unintended consequences.

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The program's first mistake seems to have been its focus on car shredding, instead of car recycling. With 690,000 vehicles traded in, that's a pretty big mistake.
According to the Automotive Recyclers Association (ARA), automobiles are almost completely recyclable, down to their engine oil and brake fluid. But many of the “Cash for Clunkers” cars were never sent to recycling facilities. The agency reports that the cars’ engines were instead destroyed by federal mandate, in order to prevent dealers from illicitly reselling the vehicles later.
The remaining parts of each car could then be put up for auction, but program guidelines also required that after 180 days, no matter how much of the car was left, the parts woud be sent to a junkyard and shredded.

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This is what I didn't get. The idiots in the zer0 administration really didn't think about the unintended consequences.

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I thought that WAS one of their aims. Not that they would come out and say it. I thought they wanted to depress the used-car market, to make it more difficult for people to find quality used cars for sale.

It sounds loopy, but with so much that this Administration has done for all to see, and then behind the scenes, I have very few, "what-the-hell?" type of moments when learning something new, anymore.

The stupid Cash for Clunkers program also made it very hard on poor young people who need cars they can afford to get from home to work or school.

This idiotic program took their cars off the market.

Of course, it was part of the socialist/environmental wacko plan to force people into public transportation, and of course, as all socialist/wacko programs do, it accomplished the opposite of what they claimed was the intent.

They wanted to force people to by electric cars and ride busses, to damage small businesses, and to make more dependent on government for everything.

It's all about power and control.

They don't care who they hurt, even if it's the people they claim they want to help.

They're pathological liars and thieves.

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The program's first mistake seems to have been its focus on car shredding, instead of car recycling. With 690,000 vehicles traded in, that's a pretty big mistake.
According to the Automotive Recyclers Association (ARA), automobiles are almost completely recyclable, down to their engine oil and brake fluid. But many of the “Cash for Clunkers” cars were never sent to recycling facilities. The agency reports that the cars’ engines were instead destroyed by federal mandate, in order to prevent dealers from illicitly reselling the vehicles later.
The remaining parts of each car could then be put up for auction, but program guidelines also required that after 180 days, no matter how much of the car was left, the parts woud be sent to a junkyard and shredded.

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This is what I didn't get. The idiots in the zer0 administration really didn't think about the unintended consequences.

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I agree with Palinista. I think the 'unintended consequences' were actually the intended consequences.

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The stupid Cash for Clunkers program also made it very hard on poor young people who need cars they can afford to get from home to work or school.

This idiotic program took their cars off the market.

Of course, it was part of the socialist/environmental wacko plan to force people into public transportation, and of course, as all socialist/wacko programs do, it accomplished the opposite of what they claimed was the intent.

They wanted to force people to by electric cars and ride busses, to damage small businesses, and to make more dependent on government for everything.

It's all about power and control.

They don't care who they hurt, even if it's the people they claim they want to help.

They're pathological liars and thieves.

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True, Palinista.

Not only do they want to hurt the poor and middle class to enhance their government control, but they want to harm rural America in favor of urban America (where their votes are).

Hadn't thought about academia's also wanting to force students to live on campus.

They're greedy leftists, just like the gov't is.

Add my voice to this mix: I agree with Palinista. I think the 'unintended consequences' were actually the intended consequences.

An addtional benefit may have been to boost sales of new GM vehicles.

The GM benefit is yet another piece in this corrupt puzzle.

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The program's first mistake seems to have been its focus on car shredding, instead of car recycling. With 690,000 vehicles traded in, that's a pretty big mistake.
According to the Automotive Recyclers Association (ARA), automobiles are almost completely recyclable, down to their engine oil and brake fluid. But many of the “Cash for Clunkers” cars were never sent to recycling facilities. The agency reports that the cars’ engines were instead destroyed by federal mandate, in order to prevent dealers from illicitly reselling the vehicles later.
The remaining parts of each car could then be put up for auction, but program guidelines also required that after 180 days, no matter how much of the car was left, the parts woud be sent to a junkyard and shredded.

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This is what I didn't get. The idiots in the zer0 administration really didn't think about the unintended consequences.

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They knew EXACTLY what they were doing. If any of these parts were left alone, they would have kept other cars they deemed "polluters" on the road. This way if someone didn't take the Regimes carrot of the $4500 for a s#!tbox, they would get the punishment of not being able to repair their car. The environment is NEVER the issue with the Commie Left. Controlling people is.

BTW. I hit the junkyards when this disaster took place. The number of low mile, beautiful cars that got junked makes me sick to my stomach. At least 20% of the cars were detailed, cleaned and had used car lot stickers on them which meant dealers were taking cars off the lot that were less than $4500 and junking them to get the free gov't money despite assurances from the Feds that this wasn't possible. Totally outrageous on all levels.

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The program's first mistake seems to have been its focus on car shredding, instead of car recycling. With 690,000 vehicles traded in, that's a pretty big mistake.
According to the Automotive Recyclers Association (ARA), automobiles are almost completely recyclable, down to their engine oil and brake fluid. But many of the “Cash for Clunkers” cars were never sent to recycling facilities. The agency reports that the cars’ engines were instead destroyed by federal mandate, in order to prevent dealers from illicitly reselling the vehicles later.
The remaining parts of each car could then be put up for auction, but program guidelines also required that after 180 days, no matter how much of the car was left, the parts woud be sent to a junkyard and shredded.

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This is what I didn't get. The idiots in the zer0 administration really didn't think about the unintended consequences.

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The environment is NEVER the issue with the Commie Left. Controlling people is.

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You're right, Frank.

Every, single issue that looks like it is environmentally friendly is actually about control. The useful idiots do not realize their role in all of this.