Lt. Col. Ralph Peters, like many of us, aren’t surprised by the new revelations in Former Defense Secretary Bob Gates’ new book. But he does find some of them troubling, especially the revelation that Obama never believed in the war in Afghanistan and yet he still allowed our troops to die and get maimed on the battlefield. Peters says that is as low as any president in our history has ever gone.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013
You all know that I cant stand Obama...however, what exactly did they want him to do? He didnt start the war. Was he supposed to yank them all out the first day?
I was never for either one of those wars. Those people are animals, nobody is going to change that and have them be civilized like the country they were all taught to hate. We shouldnt have been there..period.
In reading one of the comments on that page, one person is talking about how American lives were wasted in Iraq because we pulled out and its back to the way it was in the first place. Well thats right..but, if we stayed another 50 years, it would have gone back to what it was..with more lives lost. Ours..not theirs..I dont care about theirs. Do people want us to stay..and kill off more young people?
Nothing is gonna change there unless someone wants to turn it into parking lot status..but by then, they will likely all be over here.
Quote: Just Ducky wrote in post #2You all know that I cant stand Obama...however, what exactly did they want him to do? He didnt start the war. Was he supposed to yank them all out the first day?
I was never for either one of those wars. Those people are animals, nobody is going to change that and have them be civilized like the country they were all taught to hate. We shouldnt have been there..period.
In reading one of the comments on that page, one person is talking about how American lives were wasted in Iraq because we pulled out and its back to the way it was in the first place. Well thats right..but, if we stayed another 50 years, it would have gone back to what it was..with more lives lost. Ours..not theirs..I dont care about theirs. Do people want us to stay..and kill off more young people?
Nothing is gonna change there unless someone wants to turn it into parking lot status..but by then, they will likely all be over here.
Obama is the president that told the world that he believed Afghanistan was the "just war" while Iraq was not. He used the September 11th attacks as part of his argument. He said that we had the right to retaliate.
When Bush pushed for the surge in Iraq he voted against it.
This is the political game he played.
And he played it well. All of it helped propel him into the Oval Office.
You and I may not have been fooled. But his is how the history books wrote it. This is what the school children were taught. This is the narrative that was given to the world.
For it to be exposed by Gates as a farce today... it's good to know the truth.
But it is also sad. It's sad to know that we were lied to. It's sad to know that it was all political calculation. It's sad that he holds our military in such contempt.
I'm sure there are many political calculations that are made all the time. It is better when some of them are kept as dark secrets and never known at all.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013
Quote: Just Ducky wrote in post #2 Nothing is gonna change there unless someone wants to turn it into parking lot status..but by then, they will likely all be over here.
The sounds you are hearing are applause and whistles.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)