Afghanistan, the good war. After everything America has done, and sacrificed, on Afghan soil, both in our interest and in theirs, Karzai’s behavior, attitude, and disrespect are deplorable.
Bill O’Reilly is right to call him a villain and a despicable person.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013
What did the U.S. NOT do immediately after the American Civil War? What did the U.S. NOT do immediately after the World War II defeat of Germany and Japan?
The U.S. did not immediately embrace the Democracy Fairy and allow the ex-Confederates, the Germans or the Japanese to hold a free election and hand over the local power to whomever the ex-Confederates, the Germans or the Japanese pleased. Yet, that is exactly what the U.S. did in both Iraq and Afghanistan, resulting in the U.S. begging and pleading with local politicians that the U.S. did not choose.
Both the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War were chess games with a brilliant American Opening Game, an idiotic Middle Game and a disastrous End Game. Bush gets credit for the brilliant Opening Game but Bush must also get blame for the idiotic Middle Game. Obama gets credit for disastrous End Game which was nothing more than throwing the American chess pieces into the garbage and awarding the Iraq game to Iran and awarding the Afghanistan game to the Taliban and al Qaeda.
The guy is a tribal leader/war lord in a schizophrenic country where it is normal to change sides in a battle if it looks like your side may be losing.
What did you really expect him to act like?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Quote: sneakypete wrote in post #3The guy is a tribal leader/war lord in a schizophrenic country where it is normal to change sides in a battle if it looks like your side may be losing.
What did you really expect him to act like?
Exactly. So that is why the U.S. should have hand-picked the war lord instead of allowing local Afghan politics to pick the war lord.
"Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch." - Franklin D Roosevelt.
On the flip side, once Obama makes it perfectly clear that he never had any intention of trying to win the "Good War" and is planning a U.S. bug out for political gain right before a future U.S. election, then any son of a bitch should be expected to look out for Number One.
Quote: Polybius wrote in post #4 Exactly. So that is why the U.S. should have hand-picked the war lord instead of allowing local Afghan politics to pick the war lord.
Believe it or not,he WAS picked as being the most rational and stable war lord to back. Initially there was another one that would have probably been better from a western POV,but he was killed by a suicide bomber that was a religious freak for the Taliban.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Quote: Justme wrote in post #5 Most Americans simply don't understand that other Muslim cultures don't value life as much as we do.
Most Americans don't understand ANYTHING about other cultures. Hell,they don't even understand their own. Or care.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013