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#16 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:32 pm

Quote: GourmetDan wrote in post #15
Quote: kazy wrote in post #14
They are peace officers. Though they used to have painted on the side of the cars "Protect and Serve"

I would suggest that you stop projecting your beliefs onto the police and start evaluating their actions. The whole authoritarian system is loudly proclaiming what they will and will not do. They will not protect you, they have said so and they have demonstrated it. It is foolish to believe otherwise.

Actually, I was agreeing with you. They are peace officers, they keep the peace NOT protect individuals.

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#17 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:32 pm

Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone
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#18 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:34 pm

Quote: kazy wrote in post #16
Quote: GourmetDan wrote in post #15
Quote: kazy wrote in post #14
They are peace officers. Though they used to have painted on the side of the cars "Protect and Serve"

I would suggest that you stop projecting your beliefs onto the police and start evaluating their actions. The whole authoritarian system is loudly proclaiming what they will and will not do. They will not protect you, they have said so and they have demonstrated it. It is foolish to believe otherwise.
Actually, I was agreeing with you. They are peace officers, they keep the peace NOT protect individuals.

Other than the fact that they don't 'keep the peace', you're right.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." - Ecclesiastes 10:2

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#19 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:38 pm

Then why aren't scissors enough for government "officials"?

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#20 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:56 pm

Quote: Heisenberg wrote in post #19
Then why aren't scissors enough for government "officials"?

I'd like to see Obama or Bloomie asked that.

Illegitimi non Carborundum

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#21 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:39 pm

Quote: kazy wrote in post #14

They are peace officers. Though they used to have painted on the side of the cars "Protect and Serve"

Not anymore. Now they are Law Enforcement Officers. Along with the change in name was a change in attitude.

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#22 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:41 pm

Quote: Mr_Magoo wrote in post #21
Quote: kazy wrote in post #14

They are peace officers. Though they used to have painted on the side of the cars "Protect and Serve"

Not anymore. Now they are Law Enforcement Officers. Along with the change in name was a change in attitude.

And they are LEOs that are becoming increasingly more and more militarized every day.

(Can I get an Amen here, we've moved past that "awkward stage," haven't we?)

"So it goes."

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#23 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:57 pm

Quote: FP123 wrote in post #22
Quote: Mr_Magoo wrote in post #21
Quote: kazy wrote in post #14

They are peace officers. Though they used to have painted on the side of the cars "Protect and Serve"

Not anymore. Now they are Law Enforcement Officers. Along with the change in name was a change in attitude.

And they are LEOs that are becoming increasingly more and more militarized every day.

(Can I get an Amen here, we've moved past that "awkward stage," haven't we?)

Apparently I missed the name change. Thanks for the info.

Its inevitable with the Government encroachment deeper into our lives. I do not have a good feeling about what is coming. I remember being taught if you are in trouble to find a policeman... what do we tell them now?

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#24 | RE: 'Tackle crazed gunmen with SCISSORS or just hide under your desk': Homeland Security's controversial advice video for fighting lone wolf shooter datum

Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:03 pm

Quote: kazy wrote in post #23
I remember being taught if you are in trouble to find a policeman... what do we tell them now?

You have to tell them and teach them that they have to be able to defend themselves. You choose the method but the responsibility needs to be instilled. I'm afraid they will need it.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." - Ecclesiastes 10:2

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