From the article:

"Now, the Republican-controlled Senate must pass it before it lands on the desk of Governor Mike Beebe (D-AR).

The Democratic governor indicated at a press conference Friday that he would sign it into law now that it was amended to include an opt-out clause for all institutions, not only private ones, according to Arkansas Business."

What does the governor mean here? Couldn't you "opt out" without an amendment if you wanted to do so?

I don't know how I feel about this. I am happy the staff is allowed to carry. I have always been ambivalent about college kids carrying guns. I know they have the "right" and I would not stop that, however, college students tend to drink alot, and the males have testosterone flooding through them, get a little drink in them and I believe they're far more apt to shoot. I think at least at parties they should be required to hand over their guns.

Flame away! lol, you guys don't scare me. Now FR....I could be in for some real bashing.

Here, I am just open to hearing other points of view.

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I don't know how I feel about this. I am happy the staff is allowed to carry. I have always been ambivalent about college kids carrying guns. I know they have the "right" and I would not stop that, however, college students tend to drink alot, and the males have testosterone flooding through them, get a little drink in them and I believe they're far more apt to shoot. I think at least at parties they should be required to hand over their guns.

Flame away! lol, you guys don't scare me. Now FR....I could be in for some real bashing.

Here, I am just open to hearing other points of view.

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I feel if they are of legally able to, being in college is one of the worst reasons to deny them.

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I feel if they are of legally able to, being in college is one of the worst reasons to deny them.

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I don't quite understand your post. Are you saying they should be able to carry if they're legally of age to do so?

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Yes. If the only thing restricting them is full time student status I can't agree with it.

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From the article:

"Now, the Republican-controlled Senate must pass it before it lands on the desk of Governor Mike Beebe (D-AR).

The Democratic governor indicated at a press conference Friday that he would sign it into law now that it was amended to include an opt-out clause for all institutions, not only private ones, according to Arkansas Business."

What does the governor mean here? Couldn't you "opt out" without an amendment if you wanted to do so?

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I feel if they are of legally able to, being in college is one of the worst reasons to deny them.

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I don't quite understand your post. Are you saying they should be able to carry if they're legally of age to do so?

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Yes. If the only thing restricting them is full time student status I can't agree with it.

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I suppose having a nephew in college and knowing how immature he is has clouded my view of college students carrrying guns.

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Well, as with any law, this has a progression of modifications that may occur over the next couple of legislative sessions.

It is far easier to amend existing law than it is to write an all encompassing bill that fails to get passed.


I can give you one perfect example.
New Mexico now has a better recognized CCW permit than originally passed. The original law was draconian in training and qualification with the stipulation that the applicant qualify EVERY caliber they may choose to carry be it auto or revolver. This meant a lot of shooting on the one day of qualification. Kind of pricey to shoot .38, .357, 9mm, 45 ACP, .380, and even .22 at 40-50 rounds a piece.

This was an attempted poison pill the Democrat controlled legislature thought would kill it from passing, so a number of Democrats voted for it along with a lot of Republicans thinking there were not enough votes for it to pass and giving themselves cover in their districts.
They were wrong and Richardson signed it into law, as promised, before the ink was even dry on the bill.

Over the years this law has been amended several times to look more like Colorado, Texas, and about 30 other states. The qualification has changed to carry of anything from the maximum caliber qualified and lower. So if you qualify with the 45 in auto or revolver, any caliber smaller is ok to carry without qualification.

But it took a couple of years to get the law there.

I had a son in college, he was the responsible kid and I wouldn't have feared him carrying at all but I have another son who was more impulsive and drank alot more - now him I would have feared carrying a gun at that age. Not now, he finally grew up but how do you say "you are responsible enough to carry and you are not". And even with the responsible kid, it's not him I would have worried about but rather someone else drunk and crazy.

Now, then we come to keeping a gun in your dorm, just in case some crazy shooters are on campus. Would definitely agree in all cases with that.

Nerd, I don't think being a vet is off topic because so many of our military are just college age and they are entrusted not only with guns but with the safety of the entire United States.