Continuing with developments in the CCW scandal I first told you about weeks ago: MO Sen. Kurt Schaefer explained on my program today that officials in last week’s public hearings failed to disclose that the ATF was the federal entity who made the request for the CCW list, alongside the Department of Social Security. The ATF has not explained why they wanted this information, which by Missouri law, is illegal to share.

“This request for the list was a joint request between the Department of Social Security and the ATF,” explained Missouri State Senator Kurt Schaefer, who has spearheaded the investigation into this breach as head of the Senate Appropriations Committee.

The ATF was never mentioned by the heads of the Department of Revenue (who resigned over this scandal), or the head of the Missouri Highway Patrol, or the DMV. It was only discovered by digging through documents Schaefer subpoenaed.

“We were never told that the ATF was part of this request. Why does the ATF need a list of Missouri gun owners except to have a list of Missouri gun owners?” said Schaefer. “This isn’t even a backdoor list, this is a front door list. There is a magical database and the taxpayers paid for it.”

It was discovered that the full list was sent to the Department and Social Security and ATF twice, at least, and Schaefer says it appears there was a third exchange. What’s more, one of those exchanges consisted of a Missouri Department head dropping an unencrypted disc containing the state’s full CCW list into an envelope, with a sheet of paper bearing the password, into an envelope and sending it through the USPS.

“Those discs were not encrypted. It was an Excel list on the disc. The password was on a piece of paper in the envelope with the disc,” said Schaefer.

http://www.redstate.com/dloesch/2013/04/...f-made-request/

People wonder why there is an objection to a registry. What the hell does Social Security need gun ownership info for?

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People wonder why there is an objection to a registry. What the hell does Social Security need gun ownership info for?

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An email a federal agent sent Nov. 17, 2011, to the Highway Patrol said "the purpose for this list is to cross match it to the Social Security Administration database for people who are currently collecting disability for a mental illness."

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People wonder why there is an objection to a registry. What the hell does Social Security need gun ownership info for?

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Article that I read somewhere earlier said that they wanted to match it to a list of people on SS Disability for mental heath reasons.

Here it is: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765627015/Mo-official-resigns-amid-concealed-guns-flap.html

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An email a federal agent sent Nov. 17, 2011, to the Highway Patrol said "the purpose for this list is to cross match it to the Social Security Administration database for people who are currently collecting disability for a mental illness."

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Hum. Wonder when they got money and legal means to do that.

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People wonder why there is an objection to a registry. What the hell does Social Security need gun ownership info for?

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Article that I read somewhere earlier said that they wanted to match it to a list of people on SS Disability for mental heath reasons.

Here it is: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765627015/Mo-official-resigns-amid-concealed-guns-flap.html

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An email a federal agent sent Nov. 17, 2011, to the Highway Patrol said "the purpose for this list is to cross match it to the Social Security Administration database for people who are currently collecting disability for a mental illness."

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And where in the laws passed by congress have they been authorized to do this.

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Hum. Wonder when they got money and legal means to do that.

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And where in the laws passed by congress have they been authorized to do this.

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And where in the laws passed by congress have they been authorized to do this.

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The big question has the ATF started their pressure cooker tracking division yet. ?

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People wonder why there is an objection to a registry. What the hell does Social Security need gun ownership info for?

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Article that I read somewhere earlier said that they wanted to match it to a list of people on SS Disability for mental heath reasons.

Here it is: http://www.deseretnews.com/article/765627015/Mo-official-resigns-amid-concealed-guns-flap.html

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An email a federal agent sent Nov. 17, 2011, to the Highway Patrol said "the purpose for this list is to cross match it to the Social Security Administration database for people who are currently collecting disability for a mental illness."

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Sounds about right. The ATF is not looking for another excuse to disarm people; they are just looking out for our safety.

(FYI: I've got this bridge to sell you all. )

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And where in the laws passed by congress have they been authorized to do this.

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Not reducing the size and man power of the lawless ATF was one of the major foul ups of George Bush.

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The big question has the ATF started their pressure cooker tracking division yet. ?

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