The National Security Agency and Justice Department mounted a vigorous defense of the government's controversial surveillance efforts on Tuesday, with NSA chief Gen. Keith Alexander claiming they have helped prevent "potential terrorist events" over 50 times since 9/11.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013
Quote: Eglman wrote in post #2Yea I am going to need more proof of that other than "He claimed"
One of the problems with Congress investigating the NSA scandal is that they wall themselves off in closed hearings from the public.
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013
I'm just supposed to take somebody's word for it that terror plots have been stopped more than 50 times by NSA surveillance from a government that is up to its eyeballs with corruption?
I don't think so.
America's hope is not the donkey or the elephant, but the Lamb.
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #750 times? Yeah, I believe it......
You and me both
Of course I've seen no one ask why our borders are secure, why we let the UN determine who we allow to enter as refugees, why we allow, encourage even in the name of diversity, immigration from countries that produce Jihadis, why we let political Islam pretend that it is a religion, why we suppress speech that identifies the goals and tactics of political Islam, .. .. ..