Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #13

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Right and they did that, and then what?

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WTF...the American people wouldn't stand for what? Brevity made a number of points, many of which I agree with.

Let's have a discussion.

I agree that the "big picture" here is that the Executive Branch is attempting to take over the Legislative Branch. Don't we numerous examples of this from the past 5 years?

Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #16

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #13

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Right and they did that, and then what?

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You sound like a Lib. "We gotta do something!!!! We gotta do something!!!! We gotta do something!!!!"

Guess what. We don't have to do shit. The Rats are the party of govt' and if they want it to keep it running, they either do what we say or go to hell.

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Quote: truthkeeper wrote in post #17

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WTF...the American people wouldn't stand for what? Brevity made a number of points, many of which I agree with.

Let's have a discussion.

I agree that the "big picture" here is that the Executive Branch is attempting to take over the Legislative Branch. Don't we numerous examples of this from the past 5 years?

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #18

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Yes we did. The American people never would have stood for a 6 month or longer shutdown.

Never. Not in a million years. Only in the fantasies of the Tea Party.

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #20

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #18

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Yes we did. The American people never would have stood for a 6 month or longer shutdown.

Never. Not in a million years. Only in the fantasies of the Tea Party.

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Got any proof of that? As far as I can see having 17% of the govt' shut down didn't effect anything. Plus all the real polling, of likely voters, didn't show the GOP any more hurt than they already are. The Rats on the other hand were sinking like a stone.

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #21

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Not only that it was distracting from the Obamacare trainwreck and kept the bad news out of the headlines.

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #22

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #21

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Not only that it was distracting from the Obamacare trainwreck and kept the bad news out of the headlines.

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That's a canard. Show me ANY evidence the MSM would have given Zerocare any more coverage if the shutdown didn't happen. They didn't cover Fast and Furious. They didn't cover Benghazi. The only reason they covered as much of the Zerocare debacle they did is because they were forced to because it was part of the GOP deal.

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I needed a "love" button for your last comment, Frank.

You are playing my song. The media will NEVER - willingly - report any bad Obama news. Like I said on another thread, they cover his butt like a cat covers its poop.

The ONLY way they "report" bad news is when they need to spin it someway to save his sorry neck.

Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #23

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Obamacare would be much, much harder to keep out of the headlines than F&F, Benghazi, etc.

For that matter, I think it still will hurt Obama.

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Quote: truthkeeper wrote in post #24

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I needed a "love" button for your last comment, Frank.

You are playing my song. The media will NEVER - willingly - report any bad Obama news. Like I said on another thread, they cover his butt like a cat covers its poop.

The ONLY way they "report" bad news is when they need to spin it someway to save his sorry neck.

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #25

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #23

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Obamacare would be much, much harder to keep out of the headlines than F&F, Benghazi, etc.

For that matter, I think it still will hurt Obama.

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Really? The three networks, MSNBC, CNN and the NY Times would spend their time focusing on the one major Zero achievement as a disaster? Something they all love and adore? You are high or oblivious to what is going on.

I would argue that more bad info about Zerocare leaked out because of the shutdown because the MSM and the Regime spent too much time spinning the shutdown and orchestrating their thug tactics than trying to salvage the narrative on Zerocare.

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #26

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Quote: truthkeeper wrote in post #24

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I needed a "love" button for your last comment, Frank.

You are playing my song. The media will NEVER - willingly - report any bad Obama news. Like I said on another thread, they cover his butt like a cat covers its poop.

The ONLY way they "report" bad news is when they need to spin it someway to save his sorry neck.

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I have heard a number of GOPe'ers making this absurd assertion that the shutdown distracted from the failure of Zerocare. It makes no sense. How much coverage is Issa getting for his investigations into Zero corruption even though the same GOPe'ers said this was a big deal? None.

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #29

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Because Issa's scandals didn't have as wide of a birth as Obamacare does.

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