The framework on the Senate side would raise the debt ceiling through Feb. 7, and include a spending bill meant to last through Jan. 15. The plan would not include any provision relating to the ObamaCare medical device tax, as prior plans did; instead it would include a single provision meant to verify the income of those receiving ObamaCare subsidies. It would also instruct a bipartisan budget committee to report back on a broader plan by mid-December.
Quote: Brevity wrote in post #1Senate leaders reach tentative budget deal, aide says.
The framework on the Senate side would raise the debt ceiling through Feb. 7, and include a spending bill meant to last through Jan. 15. The plan would not include any provision relating to the ObamaCare medical device tax, as prior plans did; instead it would include a single provision meant to verify the income of those receiving ObamaCare subsidies. It would also instruct a bipartisan budget committee to report back on a broader plan by mid-December.
Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #4It's not just the Senate, it's the Presidency too. 2012 sealed Obamacare's fate. The people could have stopped it then but refused to.
Now we all get to live with the consequences.
I think if he GOP controlled the Senate in addition to the House they could've squeezed more concessions out of Obama in this fracus.
Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #4It's not just the Senate, it's the Presidency too. 2012 sealed Obamacare's fate. The people could have stopped it then but refused to.
Now we all get to live with the consequences.
I think if he GOP controlled the Senate in addition to the House they could've squeezed more concessions out of Obama in this fracus.
Like I said the solution is to win more elections. Something both the GOP-e and the Tea Party are both failures at.
And now I get to listen to 3 days of B&Ming about how rotten the GOP-e are.
If you are the House....you say...NO to the Senate deal, it does NOTHING to stop the spending or give taxpayers the same break on Oblundercare that the 'friends' of the POTUS gets, and NONE of the Congresscritters get stuck on the same plan as the rest of us.
This cannot turn into Animal Farm,where some are more equal than others. If there is not a stand now, the Repubs are destined to be the minority and irrelevant to what the king demands.
Quote: Brevity wrote in post #12If you are the House....you say...NO to the Senate deal, it does NOTHING to stop the spending or give taxpayers the same break on Oblundercare that the 'friends' of the POTUS gets, and NONE of the Congresscritters get stuck on the same plan as the rest of us.
This cannot turn into Animal Farm,where some are more equal than others. If there is not a stand now, the Repubs are destined to be the minority and irrelevant to what the king demands.
The law says the full faith and credit of the United States debt is to be paid. The Treasury has the money to do just that.
Let it go to default. Let the POTUS make the call on paying the debt.
One other thing....if Oblundercare is now a requirement under penalty of law, then the Executive can demand we all buy electric cars under penalty of law. That is what this fight is all about. The executive branch literally taking over the legislative responsibilities. A literal dictatorship.
Quote: Brevity wrote in post #14The law says the full faith and credit of the United States debt is to be paid. The Treasury has the money to do just that.
Let it go to default. Let the POTUS make the call on paying the debt.
One other thing....if Oblundercare is now a requirement under penalty of law, then the Executive can demand we all buy electric cars under penalty of law. That is what this fight is all about. The executive branch literally taking over the legislative responsibilities. A literal dictatorship.
You're simply delusional if you think the American people would stand for that.