But NOBODY stepped up to the plate. And when one did..and at least tried, they all turned against him.

I read occasionally on FR. I am NOT a member there, and seldom agree with them. I find a lot of humor in what goes on there and their way of thinking. That said..I never thought romney would win..and my hopes were only raised when I saw how he could fill a room and Obama couldnt. Because of this..I often wonder about election fraud.

The thing I am trying to point out is..if people are a part of the republicans..which conservatives seem to be..then support whomever they put there, the way the dems do. Thats how they win elections...unless of course, they are fixed..then for sure we have no chance.

In my opinion..Sarah Palin isnt gonna cut it..nor is cruz..nor is anyone else that is liked by the tea party...because republicans themselves, dont care for the tea party..which leaves me to wonder if they even know what the tea party stands for.

All I know is one thing..if people dont come together..we get Hillary. I dont really want to see her there.

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If you thought 4 million republicans that stayed home when the GOPe picked Romney was bad wait till they pick Christie as the savior of the GOPe he will have to have the Illegal's the GOPe will grant citizenship too to vote for him

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I think, at this point in time, to get rid of the dems...even Mickey Mouse would do. Christie seems to be well known..and can win....

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What it IS that I dont get is, if conservatives hate republicans why another party isnt formed. They have very little in common with republicans and get nowhere.

The excuse I see most is..third parties weaken the party. Well..whats the difference between a 3rd party..and not voting and supporting the republican. Republicans arent being helped..and conservatives are getting nowhere...and all I see is everyone is a rino, but palin and cruz. Neither one of them will win. Why? Because they run on a republican ticket..and republicans cast aside the tea party candidates. It isnt that difficult to figure that out, and I am fairly new to this.

What I fail to see is why conservatives..dont move on to their own party. Apparently, the republicans want their rinos...and I dont see that changing.

Just Ducky|p63419]What it IS that I dont get is, if conservatives hate republicans why another party isnt formed. They have very little in common with republicans and get nowhere."

It takes time. People hate to give up the familiar,even if it is less familiar than it used to be. The real question is "Will enough people finally realize they are being taken for fools in time to form a conservative party and get enough conservatives in office to stop the downward spiral into globalism that we are on now before it becomes an accomplished fact?"

I'm not optimistic. Too many people in love with the idea of belonging on the "winning team" to take a chance on unknowns. "Winning" has became more important to these people than principles.

"and all I see is everyone is a rino, but palin and cruz."

Not everybody thinks they are truly conservative,either. Palin has proven herself to be a political whore who will even support John McLunatic after he pimped her out,and I just don't trust Cruz.

" What I fail to see is why conservatives..dont move on to their own party."

They have in the past. Most notably the Republican and conservative take over of Congress under Newt. They were so successful that Dims all over the country were switching alliances to the Republican Party so they could stay in office. Which lasted the same exact length of time it took those Dims to infiltrate the party to the point where they got powerful leadership positions,and started stabbing Republicans in the back. Which lead the the Republican Party becoming a minor branch of the Dim Party. Nothing more than a place for dissatisfied Dims to go if they got mad at the incompetence and criminality of the OFFICIAL Dim Party,and needed a place to go to blow off steam where they wouldn't cause any trouble.

As for the leader of the conservative "Republican Revolution" back then,just look at what happened to him as a result. The "New Age Republicans" (Dims that needed to run as Republicans in order to stay in office) joined with their Dim brethren to convict him on a charge so bogus and minor it was laughable,and toss him out of office. He went from being one of the most powerful men in America to falling off the planet practically overnight. Not only did none of the political shows beg him to appear anymore,they wouldn't even take his calls.

He wasn't allowed to come back for a few years,either. He first had to prove to them that he had learned his lesson,and that he would obey his masters in the future.

I still am not sure what kind of serious blackmail they held over Newt's head,but I am sure they were blackmailing him somehow to keep him quiet.

I am to the point where I see the only way this country can now be saved is by violent revolution,and the sooner this happens the better.

Hmmm..well that makes sense. But, no matter how it happened..we are basically stuck.

If Hillary runs..she will win.

I cant help but think...anybody but her..because I think she is just like Obama.

I think Christie could win..because he is recognized. I think thats very important...to have someone that everyone knows....for starters. And I really think people like him. I would rather have him there, than Hillary. I just dont think these conservative people, mentioned...can win. And yes, it IS about winning..because if the republicans dont win..the democrats will...and if this is wrong,,wanting a republican win..then maybe I am in the wrong place.

Oh..and by the way, I liked Newt. I think he is a super intelligent man. But, I didnt think he would make it either...since the dems go after a persons dirty laundry...and republicans seem to not have learned that art yet.

Ya know..I dont like politicians in general, from either side. I really believe these men go into this with their hearts and minds in the right place..and once they are in, something turns them around. Greed, popularity, wanting to rule..something.

I dont think Christie is any worse than a number of them..and I would rather see him win than Hillary.

I dont agree with your husbands way of thinking, because if everyone thought like that..we get Hillary.