Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #28

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Quote: steph wrote in post #25

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He made valid points about some of the loony candidates that cost us several seats. The Tea Party has put up some real duds and don't have a clue when to realize it. The point about them being opportuni$ts shouldn't be ignored. The fact is the Tea Party got hijacked by some political opportunists.

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Baloney. Since you are defending this professional loser Rove, explain to me why focusing on the handful of weak "Tea Party" candidates who lost, which even Rove admits were not all Tea Party backed, are an issue and the dozens of RINO Rove approved candidates that LOST BIG are A O K. Rove is spinning his ass off in this interview after Kudlow totally destroyed his partner in this group this week on his show. Damage control is the word of the day for American Crossroads.

BTW. All you need to know is that Rove backed Charlie Christ in the FL GOP Primary. NOT Marco Rubio. Rove is a failure and he is just upset that his "expertise" has been shown to be a mirage.

The TP may have been hijacked in places, but the GOPe is fully owned by progressive hacks like Rove and his failed masters, the Bushes. Are you looking forward to Jeb Bush 2016? Rove sure as hell is.

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #30

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Quote: steph wrote in post #25

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He made valid points about some of the loony candidates that cost us several seats. The Tea Party has put up some real duds and don't have a clue when to realize it. The point about them being opportuni$ts shouldn't be ignored. The fact is the Tea Party got hijacked by some political opportunists.

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Not sure I agree on that one. The 'loony' candidates were made to look loony by the far left agenda driven media. The media set them up with trick questions, then snowballed everything to make them look loony, and ignorant uninformed voters fell for the scam. Obama is far more loony than ANY of those tea party candidates who lost, but has continued to be protected by this very same media, and again uninformed ignorant voters keep falling for it.

The problem is NOT the tea party, nor conservatism, nor any of its candidates. The problem is the media.

Until we do something about them, lawsuits, I don't know, whatever it takes, any conservative candidates whether backed by Rove or vilified by Rove, is going to be shark meat by the media.

Our problem is 1) the media and 2) fraudulent activity/cheating by Dems at the polls occurring nationwide without any consequences, and 3) uninformed voters who WILL NOT do their own research and keep relying on #1 above for their information are the problem. Until we get these 3 issues resolved I'd be surprised if ANY conservative candidates are ever able to win another election - Rove or not.

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #30

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Not sure I agree on that one. The 'loony' candidates were made to look loony by the far left agenda driven media. The media set them up with trick questions, then snowballed everything to make them look loony, and ignorant uninformed voters fell for the scam. Obama is far more loony than ANY of those tea party candidates who lost, but has continued to be protected by this very same media, and again uninformed ignorant voters keep falling for it.

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Quote: steph wrote in post #31

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Did I say I liked him? NO but I can at least be honest enough to say that he made some valid points pertaining to the duds that were not electable in the Senate races. It is about winning as much as it is about ideology. Nutcases like Akin and Murdoch should never have been the candidate in the first place. We paid dearly for that mistake. That egotistical idiot Akin was one of the biggest reasons we lost the presidency because women made damn sure to get out and vote.

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Pretty well sums it up, rove has lost a lot more than he has won, and he needs to head back to the bush goat farm in texas, he would make a fine goat herder.

Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #30

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Not sure I agree on that one. The 'loony' candidates were made to look loony by the far left agenda driven media. The media set them up with trick questions, then snowballed everything to make them look loony, and ignorant uninformed voters fell for the scam. Obama is far more loony than ANY of those tea party candidates who lost, but has continued to be protected by this very same media, and again uninformed ignorant voters keep falling for it.

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #37

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Right which is why we need "Reaganesque" leaders. I know it's a cliche to lionize Reagan as a conservative, but the guy knew how to skillfully play to a very hostile media.

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #37

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #30

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Not sure I agree on that one. The 'loony' candidates were made to look loony by the far left agenda driven media. The media set them up with trick questions, then snowballed everything to make them look loony, and ignorant uninformed voters fell for the scam. Obama is far more loony than ANY of those tea party candidates who lost, but has continued to be protected by this very same media, and again uninformed ignorant voters keep falling for it.

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Right which is why we need "Reaganesque" leaders. I know it's a cliche to lionize Reagan as a conservative, but the guy knew how to skillfully play to a very hostile media.

We need better leaders, period. Mitch and Boehner just can't handle media in this day and age.

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #34

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Then why no discussion about Tommy Thompson blowing his race? What about Scott Brown? The woman he ran against was a disaster who got caught lying every week. Did you forget forget the jerk candidate in NJ who lost big to Menendez while he was in the middle of a sex scandal that will force him to resign anyway? And who can forget the perennial whack job Linda McMahon who not only was allow to blow one Senate race with the GOPe blessing, but blow TWO races.

If you are are going to allow yourself to get sidetracked by these 6 specific races Rove is all upset about, you are taking the bait. This is all to distract from the real weakness with the GOP. RINO Candidates that the Rove types keep pushing that lose big.

BTW. Women were not the problem for Romney not getting elected. Romney was. He was another Rove backed RINO NE Lib failed Gov who was afraid to attack Zero and couldn't even defend his own lifestyle more less Conservatism.

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #39

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #37

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #30

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Not sure I agree on that one. The 'loony' candidates were made to look loony by the far left agenda driven media. The media set them up with trick questions, then snowballed everything to make them look loony, and ignorant uninformed voters fell for the scam. Obama is far more loony than ANY of those tea party candidates who lost, but has continued to be protected by this very same media, and again uninformed ignorant voters keep falling for it.

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Right which is why we need "Reaganesque" leaders. I know it's a cliche to lionize Reagan as a conservative, but the guy knew how to skillfully play to a very hostile media.

We need better leaders, period. Mitch and Boehner just can't handle media in this day and age.

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Reagan was Reagan, because he loved america, he loved the american people, he did not love government. And he told people that, they got it, government only serves government and in order to do that it will take your money, your property and your life , to further the growth of government.

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #36

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How many national political campaigns have you won?

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Quote: steph wrote in post #40

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #34

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Then why no discussion about Tommy Thompson blowing his race? What about Scott Brown? The woman he ran against was a disaster who got caught lying every week. Did you forget forget the jerk candidate in NJ who lost big to Menendez while he was in the middle of a sex scandal that will force him to resign anyway? And who can forget the perennial whack job Linda McMahon who not only was allow to blow one Senate race with the GOPe blessing, but blow TWO races.

If you are are going to allow yourself to get sidetracked by these 6 specific races Rove is all upset about, you are taking the bait. This is all to distract from the real weakness with the GOP. RINO Candidates that the Rove types keep pushing that lose big.

BTW. Women were not the problem for Romney not getting elected. Romney was. He was another Rove backed RINO NE Lib failed Gov who was afraid to attack Zero and couldn't even defend his own lifestyle more less Conservatism.

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The rape comments really did do a whole lot of damage to the other candidates in close races. It was enough to get the women's vote out and turn the election in several key close races including the presidency. It was a gift to the dems and they used it to get out the vote.

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GOP CANDIDATES IN CLOSE RACES DISAVOW RAPE REMARK

WASHINGTON (AP) — Just as Mitt Romney and other Republicans had cut into the Democrats' advantage with female voters, a tea party-backed Senate candidate's awkward remark — that if rape leads to pregnancy it's "something God intended" — has propelled the emotional issue of abortion back to the political forefront. It's put GOP candidates in tight races, from the presidential candidate on down, on the defensive.

Divisive social issues are hardly what most GOP candidates want to be discussing in the few days remaining until elections largely hinging on jobs and the economy. Almost immediately after Richard Mourdock's comment, Republican candidates distanced themselves from the Indiana state treasurer — though by varying degrees.

The Romney campaign said Wednesday that the presidential nominee disagreed with Mourdock but stood by his endorsement of the Senate candidate. There were no plans to drop a Romney testimonial ad for Mourdock that began airing in Indiana on Monday.

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Latest Poll Shows Women's Vote Will Deliver Obama Victory

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #43

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Are you under the impression that you should be allowed to take cowardly, demeaning, cheap shots at people with impunity, nerd?

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