House Speaker John Boehner apparently broke from Republican Party principles yet again this weekend, this time with a reported agreement to give President Barack Obama a full year-long free ride that would give up all GOP leverage until early 2014 on the debt ceiling.
“House Speaker John A. Boehner has offered to push any fight over the federal debt limit off for a year, a major concession that would deprive Republicans of leverage in the budget battle but is breathing new life into stalled talks over the year-end ‘fiscal cliff,’” the Washington Post reported late Sunday evening. “The offer came Friday, according to people in both parties familiar with the talks, as part of the latest effort by Boehner (R-Ohio) to strike a deal with President Obama to replace more than $500 billion in painful deficit-reduction measures set to take effect in January.” ----- This is Boehner’s second reported cave this weekend; earlier this weekend, he reportedly offered to increase tax rates on those earning more than $1 million per year. Obama reportedly rejected the offer, claiming Boehner hadn’t caved on Republican principles enough. Other media outlets confirmed Politico's reporting shortly thereafter. ------ Since Boehner's and Obama's fiscal cliff negotiations have been conducted in secret, behind closed doors, it's unclear which team is leaking this information about the talks. It could be the president's staff, or it could be the speaker's staff. Either way, liberal media outlets are clearly getting the leaked reports first -- a sign that whomever is doing the leaking knows the information is embarrassing for Boehner.
To be fair, I think we could have gotten a better deal if the GOP controlled the Senate. Mind you I'm not excusing Boehner, but if we didn't have Angle, O'Donnell, Atkin and Murdock..We could have controlled the Senate.. It is hard to get a agenda through when the GOP controls one branch of Government.
Quote: kevindavis wrote in post #3To be fair, I think we could have gotten a better deal if the GOP controlled the Senate. Mind you I'm not excusing Boehner, but if we didn't have Angle, O'Donnell, Atkin and Murdock..We could have controlled the Senate.. It is hard to get a agenda through when the GOP controls one branch of Government.
Orthodoxy SUCKS.
"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them."- Galileo Galilei
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #7The point is, the Dems run lousy candidates all the time and they win.
Well it could be the following reasons:
1. Our candidates is worse 2. Our candidates has foot in mouth disease. 3. Third Party 4. There are people who sit a home cause our candidates is not pure enough..
The Dem rank-and-file do not suffer from that affliction.
You're so right! The democrats all stick together but the republicans are really three different parties, each one competing for control. Conservatives want a purist with no blemishes, the elitist want Washington establishment (RINO) and the rest of them want a third party. We'll never win again unless we pick a candidate and stick together to elect him/her.
The Dem rank-and-file does not suffer from that affliction.
I agree.
The 'purists' make us lose all the time.
It's either integrity or stupidity.......
I don't know that I agree fully with that. As someone smarter than me said, the Dims are very, very clear on what they want, while Republicans in general, don't know and/or aren't able to articulate what we stand for. There's a lot of reasons for that, but I think that's the bottom line. It's hard to sell a product you don't understand or support.
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #12Ya try to explain to 'em that politics ain't church and it's like talking to a stone.
And when ya get to the part about how staying home is the same as voting for the WORST candidate their heads explode.
The twenty something crowd will never vote for a republican again because they're the gimme generation and older conservative people are dying off. What's left is the three legged crowd running in different directions.
The Dem rank-and-file does not suffer from that affliction.
I agree.
The 'purists' make us lose all the time.
It's either integrity or stupidity.......
I don't know that I agree fully with that. As someone smarter than me said, the Dims are very, very clear on what they want, while Republicans in general, don't know and/or aren't able to articulate what we stand for. There's a lot of reasons for that, but I think that's the bottom line. It's hard to sell a product you don't understand or support.