http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post...uls-filibuster/

As a few here have advocated, it is about time the purists and Tea Party people get knocked down to where they belong. Finally we have two solid members of the party taking on the kook fringe of the party before they scare off any more moderate folks. Hats off to you McCain and Graham for doing the heavy lifting and not leaving it all up to the architect, Karl Rove, to do.

Top Notch gentlemen. You may save the party after all...

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Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-Ky.) filibuster appears to have exposed a divide in the Republican Party, with the party’s two top foreign policy hawks — Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) — taking to the floor Thursday to denounce Paul’s effort in stark terms.

McCain and Graham said they support the president’s right to use deadly force — including drones — against U.S. citizens on U.S. soil who are engaged in terrorism, when there aren’t other options available.

Graham even labeled Paul’s effort — which was joined by more than a dozen Senate Republicans — as “ill-informed.”

“I don’t worry about [drones killing Americans],” Graham said. “Here’s what I worry about: that al-Qaeda has killed 2,958 of us and is going to add to the total if we let our guard down. And I will do everything in my power to protect this president — who I disagree with a lot — and future presidents in having an ill-informed Congress take over the legitimate authority under the Constitution and the laws of this land to be the Commander in Chief on behalf of all of us.”

Graham appeared with a placard that compared the number of Americans killed on U.S. soil by al-Qaeda (2,958) to the number killed by drones (0).

“We need hearings,” McCain said. “But that conversation should not be about drones killing Jane Fonda and people in cafes. It should be all about what authority and what checks and balances should exist…”

(Paul in his filibuster Wednesday suggested that the loose definition of who is an enemy of the state could mean the U.S. would drop “Hellfire missiles on Jane Fonda” or could kill people sitting down at cafes with people they didn’t know were terrorists.)

McCain also linked from his Twitter account to a Wall Street Journal op-ed that was strongly critical of Paul’s “rant.”

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Paul in his filibuster Wednesday suggested that the loose definition of who is an enemy of the state could mean the U.S. would drop “Hellfire missiles on Jane Fonda” or could kill people sitting down at cafes with people they didn’t know were terrorists.)



Exactly! Obama would care less about collateral damage.

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Exactly! Obama would care less about collateral damage.

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Quote: Olivia wrote in post #2

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Exactly! Obama would care less about collateral damage.

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See now. There you go with the type of inflammatory rhetoric that McCain and Co are trying to stop so that the moderates will like us again. Everyone knows that Obama is a great family guy, very friendly and has the very best interest of the country in his warm heart.

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Obama is the only president that I've distrusted. I've never felt that he & Michelle had a love for our country the way most Americans do.
He seems cold and calculating in everything he does so why should we trust him with the ability to order a drone strike at will? Holder chose his words carefully to pacify for now, but most of us don't trust Obama & he knows it.

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Quote: Olivia wrote in post #2

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Exactly! Obama would care less about collateral damage.

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See now. There you go with the type of inflammatory rhetoric that McCain and Co are trying to stop so that the moderates will like us again. Everyone knows that Obama is a great family guy, very friendly and has the very best interest of the country in his warm heart.

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Frank .. You are forgetting the /sarc tags!

(Had me going there)

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Boy. I wish Cedric would show up and give me a hand. He is so much better at defending this wing of the GOP and trashing rotten purists like Rand Paul and the other Tea Party filth ruining the party.

They can kiss my @$$.

Those two prove exactly what many of us have long suspected - you send a good(ish) person to D.C., and they soon become corrupted and co-opted by the power and money. And, become a McCain or Graham.

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They can kiss my @$$.

Those two prove exactly what many of us have long suspected - you send a good(ish) person to D.C., and they soon become corrupted and co-opted by the power and money. And, become a McCain or Graham.

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They can kiss my @$$.

Those two prove exactly what many of us have long suspected - you send a good(ish) person to D.C., and they soon become corrupted and co-opted by the power and money. And, become a McCain or Graham.

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They can kiss my @$$.

Those two prove exactly what many of us have long suspected - you send a good(ish) person to D.C., and they soon become corrupted and co-opted by the power and money. And, become a McCain or Graham.

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And once they get to Washington the stay there....FOREVER!

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and it takes the form of another photo

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I have one comment regarding this photo:



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Why didn't the conservative states of AZ and SC put those two out to pasture the last election? I thought both SC and AZ were sufficiently conservative and or libertarian enough to defeat both. JD Hayworth evidently wasn't a good choice as he got soundly beaten in 2010. Let's see the person running against Graham was a freaking white supremacist. It gets back to the issue, in order to win you have to put up candidates who are at least not compromised.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/...-2007-video.php

http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/...nge-to-senator/