Quote: FP123 wrote in post #15

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I thank God that at least he has his salvation.

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Your goal is supposed to be to defend the Constitution, Mr. Boehner, not keep an unconstitutional government afloat.

He seems to have no principles whatsoever.

None.

Quote: FP123 wrote in post #2

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Yeah, I read this article from them yesterday, it pissed me off to no end!
(I didn't bother to post it here because I figured it would stir up a hornet's nest! )

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Quote: Palinista wrote in post #4

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Quote: FP123 wrote in post #2

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Yeah, I read this article from them yesterday, it pissed me off to no end!
(I didn't bother to post it here because I figured it would stir up a hornet's nest! )

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What bothers me are the individual stories... the story about man who loses his job and then goes home to his wife and kids to tell them that he won't be bringing home a paycheck. If he is unable to secure employment quickly he will face grinding weeks of unemployment. This is demoralizing to him as a provider.

I'm not saying that he isn't able to regroup and eventually find another job.

But for many American fathers this is more difficult than it should have been. The Obama administration's policies are grinding the people down by design.

And when our representatives do not challenge the president and fight back on our behalf they weaken and betray us as a people.

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #10

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Quote: FP123 wrote in post #7

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I found this part maddening:

Zitat

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House Republicans have symbolically voted to repeal Obamacare more than 30 times in legislation that did not need to pass. However, every time they have enacted legislation that must-pass to keep the government funded, they have declined to include language that would repeal all or any part of Obamacare or that would withhold funding for all or any part of Obamacare.

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And can I ask I "dumb" question here? I thought that we were supposed to be going back to "regular order" now, Boehner said no more deals, secret meetings, etc.

Doesn't "regular order" imply:
- a formal budget process, hearings in sub-committees and committees, amendments, full chamber approvals, committee resolution of differences, budget signed into law
- similar movement of Appropriation and Authorization legislation through both chambers to actually fund programs as agreed upon in the budget?

And I thought that the House passed legislation to force the Senate into and through the budget process (as described above)?

So, if all of this is true, why this CR? (Unless I am missing something, and that could well be the case since I am a doddering old fool at this point, doesn't the CR just basically obviate the need to move into "regular order" for this FY? I don't get it, or maybe I do, and am pretty pissed about it.)

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with bonyar it depends who is buying the whiskey. he lied.

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Mad me laugh

Quote: nerd wrote in post #11

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Quote: Palinista wrote in post #9

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They want Obamacare. That's the answer. Anything they have said that implies they do not is a lie.

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the GOP wants to control the money they will increase spending just like the rats Ryan's budget increases spending and cuts nothing.

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Quote: FP123 wrote in post #13

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Of course the only good thing in the article was from Senator Cruz:

Though he did not expect the amendment to pass, Cruz said it was important to stand on “principle,” and urged Republicans in the House to do the same.

“I think it’s the right position for Republicans to be taking,” Cruz told CNSNews.com on Wednesday. “And I think it would be exactly the right decision to then send it back to Harry Reid and President Obama and ask if Harry Reid and President Obama are willing to try to shut the government down in order to insist that Obamacare be fully funded now, even though it could well push us into a recession.”

I'd love to be a fly on the wall and listen to what Boehner says about Cruz after Johnny has a few drinks in him.

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #12

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Relax:

"Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) offered an amendment to the Senate version of the CR that would have defunded Obamacare. However, the Senate is controlled by Democrats and, on Wednesday, Cruz's amendment failed. Cruz pointed out, however, that if the Senate CR differs at all from the one passed previously by the House, the House would have another chance to vote on it, and could amend it then to defund Obamacare."

{Sorry, no link.}

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #23

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Tell me, why is it that Ted Cruz is praised and exalted for offering an amendment to defund Obamacare although "he did not expect the amendment to pass" which, therefore, made his gesture symbolic, while House Republicans are despised because they "have symbolically voted to repeal Obamacare"............hmmmmm?

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #25

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #23

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Tell me, why is it that Ted Cruz is praised and exalted for offering an amendment to defund Obamacare although "he did not expect the amendment to pass" which, therefore, made his gesture symbolic, while House Republicans are despised because they "have symbolically voted to repeal Obamacare"............hmmmmm?

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Because this isn't symbolic. The GOP controlled House controls the purse strings and can shut Obamacare down. Your bud Boner is afraid to do it because he might not get invited on another golf outing with Zero.

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Paging Cedric, paging Cedric...a weak, ineffectual Establishment GOP'er is going down in flames on this thread and needs defending...

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #27

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #25

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #23

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Tell me, why is it that Ted Cruz is praised and exalted for offering an amendment to defund Obamacare although "he did not expect the amendment to pass" which, therefore, made his gesture symbolic, while House Republicans are despised because they "have symbolically voted to repeal Obamacare"............hmmmmm?

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Because this isn't symbolic. The GOP controlled House controls the purse strings and can shut Obamacare down. Your bud Boner is afraid to do it because he might not get invited on another golf outing with Zero.

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That's a non-answer.

Try again.

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