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#1 | State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:04 pm

CNS News
by Terence P. Jeffrey
March 17, 2013

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said on Friday that if a request were to "come forward" that the papal election be monitored by an international organization called the Organization for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), the U.S. government �would take it very seriously.�

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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/state-de...n-we-would-take

Orthodoxy SUCKS.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson

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#2 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:41 pm

Quote: Palinista wrote in post #1
CNS News
by Terence P. Jeffrey
March 17, 2013

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said on Friday that if a request were to "come forward" that the papal election be monitored by an international organization called the Organization for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), the U.S. government �would take it very seriously.�

(excerpted)
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/state-de...n-we-would-take

Can they really be THAT stupid?

"The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader

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#3 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:10 pm

The Vatican has the strictest voting requirements of any nation.

They are smart.

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#4 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:13 pm

Quote: PzLdr wrote in post #2
Quote: Palinista wrote in post #1
CNS News
by Terence P. Jeffrey
March 17, 2013

State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland said on Friday that if a request were to "come forward" that the papal election be monitored by an international organization called the Organization for Democratic Institutions and Human Rights (ODIHR), the U.S. government �would take it very seriously.�

(excerpted)
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/state-de...n-we-would-take

Can they really be THAT stupid?

Apparently, they can.

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#5 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:22 pm

Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #4
Quote: PzLdr wrote in post #2

Can they really be THAT stupid?

Apparently, they can.

Except that . . . there are convincing reports that at least once among one of the last several Papal elections, the globalist secret society vetoed the selected candidate and that candidate was denied the Papal throne he'd been voted into. I don't have the link handy. It was in the Petros Romanus book.

Having "international supervision," HOWEVER, might make jiggering the selection all the easier for the globalists.

Though they've reportedly had little problem on that score.

Prov 22:3 A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions.
The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. NLT
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#6 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:51 pm

Quote: Quix wrote in post #5
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #4
Quote: PzLdr wrote in post #2

Can they really be THAT stupid?

Apparently, they can.

Except that . . . there are convincing reports that at least once among one of the last several Papal elections, the globalist secret society vetoed the selected candidate and that candidate was denied the Papal throne he'd been voted into. I don't have the link handy. It was in the Petros Romanus book.

Having "international supervision," HOWEVER, might make jiggering the selection all the easier for the globalists.

Though they've reportedly had little problem on that score.

So, if the Catholic church wants to elect their pope by doing a Maypole dance contest, what possible business is it of the US federal government?

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#7 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 6:23 pm (Last edited: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:57 pm)

Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #6
Quote: Quix wrote in post #5
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #4
[quote=PzLdr|p23311]
Can they really be THAT stupid?

Apparently, they can.

Except that . . . there are convincing reports that at least once among one of the last several Papal elections, the globalist secret society vetoed the selected candidate and that candidate was denied the Papal throne he'd been voted into. I don't have the link handy. It was in the Petros Romanus book.

Having "international supervision," HOWEVER, might make jiggering the selection all the easier for the globalists.

Though they've reportedly had little problem on that score.

So, if the Catholic church wants to elect their pope by doing a Maypole dance contest, what possible business is it of the US federal government?
[/quote

I QUITE AGREE.

However, the PTB have been doing what ever they wanted with whatever large group or company for a long time . . . and increasingly so. PETROS ROMANUS has a library--literally--a library of documentation indicating that their influence with the Vatican has been about as equal to or very equal to their influence with the US government.

They contend with a list of points and a longer list of evidence that even the design of the Vatican with the dome and obelisk was copied in D.C. for strictly occult purposes.

So, it's not per se that the U.S. government has no business dictating anything to the Vatican . . . it's that folks above both evidently dictate to both.

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#8 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:18 pm

Quix, sorry, but I really don't understand your answer. If the US wants to resist another sovereign nation impinging on our sovereignty, they have a right and/or responsibility to do so. What does how the mechanism whereby they elect their leader have to do with that?

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#9 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:53 pm

Quote: Quix wrote in post #7

They contend with a list of points and a longer list of evidence that even the design of the Vatican with the dome and obelisk was copied in D.C. for strictly occult purposes.

That this can even be entertained is malarky. My goodness. How many domes are there around the world? How many people look at them as they rise majestically above the skyline and exclaim with awe, "Ah! Now there is where I will bow my knee to Satan."

Is there anything that you will not believe, Quix?

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#10 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:03 pm

Quote: Palinista wrote in post #9
Quote: Quix wrote in post #7

They contend with a list of points and a longer list of evidence that even the design of the Vatican with the dome and obelisk was copied in D.C. for strictly occult purposes.

That this can even be entertained is malarky. My goodness. How many domes are there around the world? How many people look at them as they rise majestically above the skyline and exclaim with awe, "Ah! Now there is where I will bow my knee to Satan."

Is there anything that you will not believe, Quix?

I don't think so, it's mostly pollution that emanates from Quix.

"The Republican Party doesn't demonize prosperity. We celebrate success in our party," he said. "And let me be clear, if Republican leaders want to join this president in demonizing success and disparaging conservative values, then they're not going to be fit to be our nominee."

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#11 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:43 pm

Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #6

So, if the Catholic church wants to elect their pope by doing a Maypole dance contest, what possible business is it of the US federal government?

Trying again.

1. I AGREE with you. It is no business of the Federal Government how the Vatican selects the Pope.

2. I was quite skeptical of all the noise about the Vatican and D.C. I've even avoided "going there' for years. (A) It was a distasteful topic (B) I didn't WANT to find out about such things. As skeptical as I was--I was concerned that there would be SOME KERNEL of truth to such stuff. I was grossly WRONG. There's FAR MORE than a kernel of truth to a list of horrific stuff.

3. As it turns out . . . Putnam and Horn have done such an enormously meticulous and thorough job of research--{with extensive amounts of truth from the RCC's own writers, scholars and documents}--and made so much of it available in the DVD that's available with the book--there's just very little room for a contrary conclusion. That's very sad but is plenty real. Those who have not examined the evidence are the ones lacking understanding and knowledge about the realities involved.

4. My point was that the evidence strongly suggests to proves {particularly in the case of the USA} that voters do not choose our President {For one, BOTH major candidates are preselected by the same cabal}. And, that actually, the Cardinals at least do not choose UNFETTEREDly the Pope {an alternate also strong bit of evidence is that even if and when the Cardinals do choose the Pope without a veto from the cabal in the middle of the meetings--that there's now enough . . . compromised Cardinals that they still end up with what the cabal wants}. . . . that the same cabal selects both.

5. These micro-bits of the whole picture I've shared above are the tiniest tip of very black icebergs both in Rome and in D.C. I'm still stunned by all the well and scholarly documented information.

6. Sometimes it seems like it's all halls of mirrors within halls of mirrors within Alice's rabbit hole. Yet, Putnam and Horn have very carefully lain it all out in very understandable, if mind-boggling terms. I was right that the book was an important one for our era. I was wrong in thinking that they'd only have a significant issue or 3 to "expose." The whole picture is FAR worse than that.

7. I think the whole issue of an international fair-voting organization monitoring the Sistine Chapel vote is a very curious one. AT A MINIMUM (imho,) IT INDICATES that Putnam and Horn were right--that there have been leaks and protests about voted-in-Popes being vetoed by the powers that be. And evidently someone is groping about trying to come up with a solution to stop that.

8. I just think that the rot is soooo pervasive at such high levels backed by sooooo much money and power--there's no way even an international fair-voting tribunal will change anything for the better. TPTB are NOT ABOUT to let ANYONE diminish their !CONTROL! in the slightest.

9. In some respects, all such goings on in our era are not all THAT different from what's gone on with the selection of Popes over the centuries. Powerful monied families controlled the Popes' selections in case after case for centuries. It's just that there has been the illusion that things were much more kosher now. Evidently not.

10. Another angle on this is . . . OThuga is directing the titular stand-in pretend government of the USA. Why put this out? Why now? What's the objective? What's the objective of his bosses? He wouldn't dare do that on his own initiative--with or without a teleprompter.

11. CERTAINLY the USA is acting more and more aggressively and MORE OVERTLY like the WORLD GOVERNMENT itself--or at least the designated representative of the world government. THIS announcement fits THAT role and meme very well.

12. Certainly the Vatican has announced several years ago (in a very strongly worded official Papal Encyclical) strong Papal support--DEMAND, even--for a world economic governing body WITH TEETH to enforce its edicts. THAT fits OThuga's goals like a hand in glove.

13. And, the Vatican has been making moves toward positioning itself to take control of at least an area of the Mount of Olives--and now has said control made official within the last year. This; could fit quite well the Malachy and Malachi Martin predictions (as well as interestingly, St Francis of Assisi's prophecies--the wording of all of them is quite similar) regarding the end times and events in Rome; with the Pope and the RCC.

14. So now the USA is voicing strong hints of support--perhaps heavy handed support for an international fair-voting organization to monitor and ?supervise? the Sistine Chapel vote for the Pope. What's the goal? Why now? It's more than a little curious, to me. . . . even having read all of PETROS ROMANUS. There's still lots of smoke and mirrors and branching tunnels in Alice's rabbit hole.

15. Nevertheless, for those wishing to remain kosher, PC social stars, sane and cool--please walk on by. There's nothing here but the rantings of blathering kook Quix. The researchers only provide probably more than 50,000 pages of documentation for their assertions. Nothing substantive to be concerned about in the least. /s

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#12 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:44 pm

Quote: Quix wrote in post #7
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #6
Quote: Quix wrote in post #5
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #4
[quote=PzLdr|p23311]
Can they really be THAT stupid?

Apparently, they can.

Except that . . . there are convincing reports that at least once among one of the last several Papal elections, the globalist secret society vetoed the selected candidate and that candidate was denied the Papal throne he'd been voted into. I don't have the link handy. It was in the Petros Romanus book.

Having "international supervision," HOWEVER, might make jiggering the selection all the easier for the globalists.

Though they've reportedly had little problem on that score.

So, if the Catholic church wants to elect their pope by doing a Maypole dance contest, what possible business is it of the US federal government?
[/quote

[b]I QUITE AGREE.

However, the PTB have been doing what ever they wanted with whatever large group or company for a long time . . . and increasingly so. PETROS ROMANUS has a library--literally--a library of documentation indicating that their influence with the Vatican has been about as equal to or very equal to their influence with the US government.

They contend with a list of points and a longer list of evidence that even the design of the Vatican with the dome and obelisk was copied in D.C. for strictly occult purposes.

So, it's not per se that the U.S. government has no business dictating anything to the Vatican . . . it's that folks above both evidently dictate to both.

Maybe Quix you should look again at DC and whats there:

How is Liberals calling for infringing the 2nd any different from their calling for infringing the 13th?

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#13 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:49 pm

Quote: Palinista wrote in post #9

That this can even be entertained is malarky.

I wish you were right. How I wish you were right.

However,

Putnam and Horn prove that assertion grossly wrong many times over.

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#14 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:55 pm (Last edited: Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:56 pm)

Quote: Mechanicos wrote in post #12

Maybe Quix you should look again at DC and whats there:

It was almost literally painful to read a lot of the FACTS about D.C. . . . and about, e.g. Benjamin Franklin.

1. His home in London was not that long ago excavated and refurbished. Discovered under it were skeletons FROM THE very years that HE LIVED THERE--skeletons which bore the tell-tale and unmistakable marks of satanic ritual human sacrifice.

2. Where was THAT story on the history channel?

3. I won't likely put the documented proofs hereon. There doesn't seem to be that much genuine and fair-minded interest here for it to be worth my bother. I don't know how much I'll put on TBL. There's some risk in doing it. And given how hard to stomach it was even for me with my 45 years of studying globalism . . . it can't be that much fun for those much less aware of such things.

4. Killing and blaming the messenger is such fun sport and easier anyway.

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#15 | RE: State Dept.: If Request Were Made for International Monitoring of Papal Election �We Would Take It Very Seriously� datum

Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:57 pm

Quote: Quix wrote in post #13

I wish you were right. How I wish you were right.

However,

Putnam and Horn prove that assertion grossly wrong many times over.

To claim that the entire church is based upon the worship of Satan is positively stunning.

Now, human beings being what they are do sin and some rise up in pride and act against God. But this line of argument that you are following is really too much.

You are basically saying that the Catholic church is a nothing other than the Church of Satan lashed into a global conspiracy controlled by the NWO and that all of this was prophesied.

This may excite you or interest you. But let me tell you I that I find it distasteful in the extreme. You can come to this website and post as you like but really... you show yourself to be a hysterical loon who hates Catholics and sees no goodness within their church. May God forgive you.

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