Feds requested — and got — names of all conceal-carry owners in Missouri

By Douglas Ernst -The Washington Times Thursday, April 11, 2013

Have a conceal-carry license in Missouri? Chances are, the feds now know who you are. At least 185,000 people were affected after the full list of conceal-carry owners was turned over the federal authorities — twice.

"Apparently from what I understand, they wanted to match up anyone who had a mental diagnosis or disability with also having a concealed carry license," the Columbia Daily Tribune reports Republican state Sen. Kurt Schaefer as saying. "What I am told is there is no written request for that information."

The Daily Tribune notes that under Missouri law, the names of concealed weapon permit holders are confidential and that such information is supposed to be found only with the state's driver's license records.

The Missouri State Highway Patrol has confirmed that the information was given to federal authorities.

"The information was provided to law enforcement for law enforcement investigative purposes," Capt. Tim Hull wrote in an email response to questions from the the Daily Tribune.

--snip--

Law enforcement bent the law and got the data they wanted. No surprise, there.

While not mentioned at all in this report, we must always keep in mind that the feds are using (OUR) $$$ to "cash strapped" states and local gubmints to buy their "cooperation." Like those extra $$$ for those shiny new toys and/or alternate means to fund your obligations? Play ball with us. Otherwise, forget your next appropriation.

Hah! I almost got concealed carry when I was in Mo. I stopped at the last minute after someone at work said they wouldn't want to be on anyone's list.

Also have a friend who took the class, then qualified with their weapon but stopped short of getting the actual license - for the very same reason.

Had a friend who rode with a police buddy, police buddy ran friend's license and said first thing that came up was that he had a concealed carry license. Certainly an important thing for cop to know if stopping someone but still....you're on the "list".

And by the way, what happened to "top" or "flop". Now we're all being nicey nice and saying "thank you" instead?

Quote: ozarkian wrote in post #5

---

And by the way, what happened to "top" or "flop". Now we're all being nicey nice and saying "thank you" instead?

---

The sad fact of the matter is that there is already a de facto national registry (regardless of all of the claims of "prohibition"). A T F has been copying F 4 4 7 3s for decades all over the country for a myriad number of excuses. When you factor in their "temporary, emergency" data collections and sanctioned "investigations," seizing all of the records of F F Ls that cease operation for any reason, copying and/or photographing pages from "bound books," they've got quite a bit of data in hand. All this was happening long before the introduction of the electronic form that transmits all of the data directly to the feds for every check request, so you can imagine the breadth of the records database now. But of course this is all "prohibited" and the new S. 649 "reaffirms the existing prohibition on a national firearms registry" so there is nothing to worry about, nothing at all...

Quote: FP123 wrote in post #7

---

The sad fact of the matter is that there is already a de facto national registry (regardless of all of the claims of "prohibition"). A T F has been copying F 4 4 7 3s for decades all over the country for a myriad number of excuses. When you factor in their "temporary, emergency" data collections and sanctioned "investigations," seizing all of the records of F F Ls that cease operation for any reason, copying and/or photographing pages from "bound books," they've got quite a bit of data in hand. All this was happening long before the introduction of the electronic form that transmits all of the data directly to the feds for every check request, so you can imagine the breadth of the records database now. But of course this is all "prohibited" and the new S. 649 "reaffirms the existing prohibition on a national firearms registry" so there is nothing to worry about, nothing at all...

---