Amidst the Republican cheer about scandals afflicting the Obama administration and Democrats, there is a far more interesting sideshow going on in Washington — one that threatens to tear the GOP apart right at the time they need to be unified in order to keep the House and take control of the Senate next year.
It’s the ongoing, destructive feud between two Senators representing different factions of the Republican Senate. John McCain representing the GOP establishment and Ted Cruz, darling of the Tea Party nationwide, have been going at it all week on the Senate floor.
The proximate cause of the sniping and backbiting has been the GOP establishment’s desire to move the budget recently passed by Senate Democrats to a conference committee. But Cruz, Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul are blocking the motion because they believe the Democrats will try to slip a rise in the debt ceiling somewhere in the budget, thus denying conservatives the opportunity to use the debt as leverage in their efforts to get the congress on record to pass a balanced budget in 10 years. ------ The real fight is for the very soul of the Republican party and what the public face of the GOP will be. Will Republicans be seen as ideologically rigid obstructionists, hell bent on preventing the functioning of government, eschewing compromise even with members of their own party?
Whether it’s true or not isn’t the point. With an eager media advancing that perception by gleefully reporting Senator Cruz’s every bombastic utterance, the efforts by McCain and other establishment figures in the party to temper the GOP image seems doomed to fail.
Quote: Olivia wrote in post #1Amidst the Republican cheer about scandals afflicting the Obama administration and Democrats, there is a far more interesting sideshow going on in Washington — one that threatens to tear the GOP apart right at the time they need to be unified in order to keep the House and take control of the Senate next year.
It’s the ongoing, destructive feud between two Senators representing different factions of the Republican Senate. John McCain representing the GOP establishment and Ted Cruz, darling of the Tea Party nationwide, have been going at it all week on the Senate floor.
The proximate cause of the sniping and backbiting has been the GOP establishment’s desire to move the budget recently passed by Senate Democrats to a conference committee. But Cruz, Marco Rubio, Mike Lee, and Rand Paul are blocking the motion because they believe the Democrats will try to slip a rise in the debt ceiling somewhere in the budget, thus denying conservatives the opportunity to use the debt as leverage in their efforts to get the congress on record to pass a balanced budget in 10 years. ------ The real fight is for the very soul of the Republican party and what the public face of the GOP will be. Will Republicans be seen as ideologically rigid obstructionists, hell bent on preventing the functioning of government, eschewing compromise even with members of their own party?
Whether it’s true or not isn’t the point. With an eager media advancing that perception by gleefully reporting Senator Cruz’s every bombastic utterance, the efforts by McCain and other establishment figures in the party to temper the GOP image seems doomed to fail.
You would think the conservative wing of the republican party would come out swinging about our country's debt. How they are trying to be the responsible party, holding back to rein in spending.
They have let the media, democrats, and members like John McCain define them as obstructionist to Obama's agenda as if that's a bad thing.
I really hope there's more of them than the John McCains & Lindsay Grahams that think they are the rulers of the party and expect the others to fall in line. Kudo's to the ones that don't.
Mr Speaker and his yes men, Cantor and Ryan, whipped tarp and the stimulus. No those people are not for less spending. The so called Ryan budget relied on the voodoo promises of future congressional action, he was increasing spending at a slower rate. It was a lie, they believe in and support bigger government.
Quote: nerd wrote in post #4Mr Speaker and his yes men, Cantor and Ryan, whipped tarp and the stimulus.
Nancy Pelosi was Speaker Of The House when TARP passed and most Republicans voted against it.
And NO House Republicans voted for Obama's stimulus bill.
But, since you're on record stating your willingness to vote for Hillary in 2016, on one expects you to be honest or accurate in your anti-GOP attacks.
Quote: nerd wrote in post #4Mr Speaker and his yes men, Cantor and Ryan, whipped tarp and the stimulus. No those people are not for less spending. The so called Ryan budget relied on the voodoo promises of future congressional action, he was increasing spending at a slower rate. It was a lie, they believe in and support bigger government.
Voodoo describes Ryan's mathematics. If spending is increased by less than originally planned it is called a decrease in spending. e.g. increasing spending 5% instead of 10% = a 5% decrease in spending.
Quote: nerd wrote in post #4Mr Speaker and his yes men, Cantor and Ryan, whipped tarp and the stimulus. No those people are not for less spending. The so called Ryan budget relied on the voodoo promises of future congressional action, he was increasing spending at a slower rate. It was a lie, they believe in and support bigger government.
Voodoo describes Ryan's mathematics. If spending is increased by less than originally planned it is called a decrease in spending. e.g. increasing spending 5% instead of 10% = a 5% decrease in spending.
Quote: nerd wrote in post #8http://www.rinolist.org/2010/08/list-of-republicans-who-voted-for-tarp/
In post #4 you either haphazardly or dishonestly claimed, "Mr Speaker and his yes men, Cantor and Ryan, whipped tarp....", failing to recognize that Mr. Boenher wasn't even Speaker when TARP was passed, Nancy Pelosi was.
Now, it turns out, according to the link you provided, that neither Boehner nor Cantor even voted for TARP.
"After the Democrats won majorities in both the House and the Senate in the 2006 midterm elections, Pelosi was chosen to become the first woman to take the post of Speaker of the House."