Quote: Eglman wrote in post #15Of course Frank after all we are only 1/2 of 1/3 of 4/16 of 9/32 of the government and because we in the gop leadership do not know how government really works we are waiting for super majority to really screw up
That is a really good point. When the GOP had both houses of congress and the Presidency, what did we get? Pushes for Amnesty, Medicare part D, Ethanol subsidies, higher CAFE standards and spending out the ass. Now we are supposed to just take their word that they will be better than the Rats if we get them back in the captains chair?
Quote: Eglman wrote in post #15Of course Frank after all we are only 1/2 of 1/3 of 4/16 of 9/32 of the government and because we in the gop leadership do not know how government really works we are waiting for super majority to really screw up
That is a really good point. When the GOP had both houses of congress and the Presidency, what did we get? Pushes for Amnesty, Medicare part D, Ethanol subsidies, higher CAFE standards and spending out the ass. Now we are supposed to just take their word that they will be better than the Rats if we get them back in the captains chair?
That is a good point.
These elitist just don't get it....we voters are onto them now....we know they lie to us. And we don't trust them anymore than we trust the Dems. Why? Because they've lied to us - over and over.
Furthermore we are not "fringe" nor are we "kooks" that are in a small minority.
If we were - Romney would have won. He didn't. Case closed.
America's hope is not the donkey or the elephant, but the Lamb.
Quote: Eglman wrote in post #15Of course Frank after all we are only 1/2 of 1/3 of 4/16 of 9/32 of the government and because we in the gop leadership do not know how government really works we are waiting for super majority to really screw up
That is a really good point. When the GOP had both houses of congress and the Presidency, what did we get? Pushes for Amnesty, Medicare part D, Ethanol subsidies, higher CAFE standards and spending out the ass. Now we are supposed to just take their word that they will be better than the Rats if we get them back in the captains chair?
Quote: Eglman wrote in post #15Of course Frank after all we are only 1/2 of 1/3 of 4/16 of 9/32 of the government and because we in the gop leadership do not know how government really works we are waiting for super majority to really screw up
That is a really good point. When the GOP had both houses of congress and the Presidency, what did we get? Pushes for Amnesty, Medicare part D, Ethanol subsidies, higher CAFE standards and spending out the ass. Now we are supposed to just take their word that they will be better than the Rats if we get them back in the captains chair?
Quit living in the past, Frank.
(We need a pot meets kettle or black pot or something emoticon)
America's hope is not the donkey or the elephant, but the Lamb.
Quote: Eglman wrote in post #15Of course Frank after all we are only 1/2 of 1/3 of 4/16 of 9/32 of the government and because we in the gop leadership do not know how government really works we are waiting for super majority to really screw up
That is a really good point. When the GOP had both houses of congress and the Presidency, what did we get? Pushes for Amnesty, Medicare part D, Ethanol subsidies, higher CAFE standards and spending out the ass. Now we are supposed to just take their word that they will be better than the Rats if we get them back in the captains chair?
"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson
"If people can’t trust not only the executive branch but also don’t trust Congress, and don’t trust federal judges, to make sure that we’re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we’re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013
Quote: Eglman wrote in post #15Of course Frank after all we are only 1/2 of 1/3 of 4/16 of 9/32 of the government and because we in the gop leadership do not know how government really works we are waiting for super majority to really screw up
That is a really good point. When the GOP had both houses of congress and the Presidency, what did we get? Pushes for Amnesty, Medicare part D, Ethanol subsidies, higher CAFE standards and spending out the ass. Now we are supposed to just take their word that they will be better than the Rats if we get them back in the captains chair?
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #13 Sure there is, Frank.
It signals to everyone (except the right-wing fringe kooks) that, if given sufficient numbers in the House and Senate and control of trhe WH, the GOP will kill Obamacare.
That's big upside!
Oh. So if we are leading now with signals, what does allowing Amnesty to be done and not having a Select Committee on the Zero scandals tell us rube Right Wingers out here? How about that millionaires tax that was passed? Great signals.
By definition, Frank, the minority party connot lead.