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#16 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:56 pm

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #13
Quote: Palinista wrote in post #12
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #7

Right now, he'll be lucky if he gets 30 votes.

Cruz isn't doing this simply for the votes. He's doing this so that the public will see him arguing against the status quo. He thinks it's worth the political risk.

I remember #StandwithRand.

Exactly.

It looks like he's grandstanding and "showing-up" his GOP cohorts which most of them don't deserve.

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#17 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:57 pm

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #13
Quote: Palinista wrote in post #12
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #7

Right now, he'll be lucky if he gets 30 votes.

Cruz isn't doing this simply for the votes. He's doing this so that the public will see him arguing against the status quo. He thinks it's worth the political risk.

I remember #StandwithRand.

Exactly.

It looks like he's grandstanding and "showing-up" has put his GOP cohorts which most of them don't deserve.

I think it is worth the risk. He will vote accordingly.

What is better? Going on FOX and making a principled stance when talking to Brian Kilmeade? Blustering for the cameras? And then going behind closed doors to bargain with his good buddies on the other side of the aisle? How many of those creeps on the Hill do THAT without a twinge to their consciences?

I don't think he is going to do that.

He is drawing attention to the problem of Obamacare. And you're here busy talking about it. Looks like he's got your attention.

How much press will he get out of this? Much.

It's better than another O'Reilly interview.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson

"If people can�t trust not only the executive branch but also don�t trust Congress, and don�t trust federal judges, to make sure that we�re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we�re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013

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#18 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:08 pm (Last edited: Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:09 pm)

Quote: Palinista wrote in post #17
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #13
Quote: Palinista wrote in post #12
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #7

Right now, he'll be lucky if he gets 30 votes.

Cruz isn't doing this simply for the votes. He's doing this so that the public will see him arguing against the status quo. He thinks it's worth the political risk.

I remember #StandwithRand.

Exactly.

It looks like he's grandstanding and "showing-up" his GOP cohorts which most of them don't deserve.

I think it is worth the risk. He will vote accordingly.

What is better? Going on FOX and making a principled stance when talking to Brian Kilmeade? Blustering for the cameras? And then going behind closed doors to bargain with his good buddies on the other side of the aisle? How many of those creeps on the Hill do THAT without a twinge to their consciences?

I don't think he is going to do that.

He is drawing attention to the problem of Obamacare. And you're here busy talking about it. Looks like he's got your attention.

How much press will he get out of this? Much.

It's better than another O'Reilly interview.

Palinista, I applaude Senator Cruz for his intentions.

But his approach has made a serious mess of this, politically.

He picked a fight he can't win.

He ran around (and over) his GOP colleagues.

And now he's asking them to cast a vote which will be construed by the Dems and the MSM to mean that when Republicans had a chance to vote to defund Obamacare, they wouldn't even bring it up for a vote.

Again, this thing is a mess right now thanks to Senator Cruz.

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#19 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:11 pm

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #18
Palinista, I applaude Senator Cruz for his intentions.

But his approach has made a serious mess of this, politically.

He picked a fight he can't win.

He ran around (and over) his GOP colleagues.

And now he's asking them to cast a vote which will be construed by the Dems and the MSM to mean that when Republicans had a chance to vote to defund Obamacare, they wouldn't even bring it up for a vote.

Again, this thing is a mess right now thanks to Senator Cruz.

Cruz is playing a longer game.

He, Lee and Paul are taking on the Maverick and Lindsey Graham.

They want a war. They are creating one.

Let's see which one of those men ends up getting closer to nomination for president in 2016.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson

"If people can�t trust not only the executive branch but also don�t trust Congress, and don�t trust federal judges, to make sure that we�re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we�re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013

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#20 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:19 pm

Yes, it looks as though Cruz is just palying a game to enhance his prospects down the road.

And how does that stop Obamacare now?

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#21 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:21 pm

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #20
Yes, it looks as though Cruz is just palying a game to enhance his prospects down the road.

And how does that stop Obamacare now?

Yes. We get it. You have no plans to stop Zerocare so you are forced to denigrate real leadership like Cruz and Lee taking a stand.

Now run along little boy.

North American Lambada Dance Champion 1988, 1989, 1991.

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#22 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:23 pm

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #20
Yes, it looks as though Cruz is just palying a game to enhance his prospects down the road.

And how does that stop Obamacare now?

You keep hammering away telling us that this is an impossible task.

Do you think that Cruz isn't more familiar with the math than you?

When Rand Paul filibustered John Brennan he knew Brennan was going to be confirmed.

Well, whose name is ranking on Twitter? Who is being interviewed more today because of that filibuster?

Rand Paul. People are watching him and paying attention to what he is saying or doing. That is worth a lot to him.

Cruz is doing the same thing.

People will talk about Cruz. They will remember today.

It does MEAN something to the average voter to have people speak up in a "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" type of drama.

It's much better than thinking NO ONE will ever fight against ANYTHING.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson

"If people can�t trust not only the executive branch but also don�t trust Congress, and don�t trust federal judges, to make sure that we�re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we�re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013

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#23 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:23 pm

Joe Btfsplk.* Joe Btfsplk. Anyone seen Joe Btfsplk?

*Google it

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he didn't know what to do with it.
If you think this country's bad off now,
just wait 'til [Zero's] through with it.
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#24 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:27 pm

Quote: Palinista wrote in post #22

You keep hammering away telling us that this is an impossible task.

Do you think that Cruz isn't more familiar with the math than you?

When Rand Paul filibustered John Brennan he knew Brennan was going to be confirmed.

Well, whose name is ranking on Twitter? Who is being interviewed more today because of that filibuster?

Rand Paul. People are watching him and paying attention to what he is saying or doing. That is worth a lot to him.

Cruz is doing the same thing.

People will talk about Cruz. They will remember today.

It does MEAN something to the average voter to have people speak up in a "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" type of drama.

It's much better than thinking NO ONE will ever fight against ANYTHING.

Hear hear.

I have more respect for a man standing out there alone taking swings at a giant against all odds than I do a guy sitting in the corner complaining that the task is too difficult.

North American Lambada Dance Champion 1988, 1989, 1991.

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#25 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:27 pm

Quote: Palinista wrote in post #22
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #20
Yes, it looks as though Cruz is just palying a game to enhance his prospects down the road.

And how does that stop Obamacare now?

You keep hammering away telling us that this is an impossible task.

Do you think that Cruz isn't more familiar with the math than you?

When Rand Paul filibustered John Brennan he knew Brennan was going to be confirmed.

Well, whose name is ranking on Twitter? Who is being interviewed more today because of that filibuster?

Rand Paul. People are watching him and paying attention to what he is saying or doing. That is worth a lot to him.

Cruz is doing the same thing.

People will talk about Cruz. They will remember today.

It does MEAN something to the average voter to have people speak up in a "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" type of drama.

It's much better than thinking NO ONE will ever fight against ANYTHING.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22..._n_3972316.html

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#26 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:30 pm

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #25
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22/tom-coburn-obamacare_n_3972316.html

The people of Oklahoma can kick Coburn's ass if they want to. He isn't my senator.

I live in a state with two senators that SUCK.

If Cruz or Paul were my senators, I would be proud of them. At least they give VOICE to my angst when my senators NEVER DO.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson

"If people can�t trust not only the executive branch but also don�t trust Congress, and don�t trust federal judges, to make sure that we�re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we�re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013

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#27 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:30 pm (Last edited: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:40 pm)

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #25

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22..._n_3972316.html

Once again we have Cedric citing Leftist outlets to push his defeatist line. Here he is once again peddling Huffpoo. This is no coincidence.

edited to remove unnecessary ad hominem attack. FP

North American Lambada Dance Champion 1988, 1989, 1991.

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#28 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:32 pm

Quote: Palinista wrote in post #26
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #25
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22/tom-coburn-obamacare_n_3972316.html

The people of Oklahoma can kick Coburn's ass if they want to. He isn't my senator.

I live in a state with two senators that SUCK.

If Cruz or Paul were my senators, I would be proud of them. At least they give VOICE to my angst when my senators NEVER DO.

I just figured you'd like to hear from someone who does know the math.

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#29 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:33 pm (Last edited: Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:14 pm)

Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #27
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #25

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22..._n_3972316.html

Once again we have Cedric citing Leftist outlets to push his defeatist line. Here he is once again peddling Huffpoo. This is no coincidence.

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#30 | RE: Ted Cruz Responds To News �Republicans� Fed Unsolicited Opposition Research To Chris Wallace� datum

Tue Sep 24, 2013 6:38 pm

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #28
Quote: Palinista wrote in post #26
Quote: Cedric wrote in post #25
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/22/tom-coburn-obamacare_n_3972316.html

The people of Oklahoma can kick Coburn's ass if they want to. He isn't my senator.

I live in a state with two senators that SUCK.

If Cruz or Paul were my senators, I would be proud of them. At least they give VOICE to my angst when my senators NEVER DO.

I just figured you'd like to hear from someone who does know the math.

I am becoming more familiar with the math.

I think Cruz, Lee and Paul know the math. I don't think these men stand up and speak loudly in the Senate because they think they will win the votes.

They are trying to awaken the masses. Give them some room and some space. Let them try, at least. Don't rain on the parade and say all is lost, when I would like to believe that somewhere deep down the sleeping giant of America will rear up one day and fight back.

Maybe not in my lifetime, but maybe in my children's future.

Awaken the people. Give it some time.

Maybe my grandchildren will be saved from a lifetime of servitude.

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual." Thomas Jefferson

"If people can�t trust not only the executive branch but also don�t trust Congress, and don�t trust federal judges, to make sure that we�re abiding by the Constitution with due process and rule of law, then we�re going to have some problems here." - Barack Obama, June 7, 2013

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