I hear ya. Even loud you're wrong. The lack of votes for Obamas opponent gave us Obama a second time. McCain, his poodle and MM likely voted against him.


Since when is trashing conservatives bothersome to you?

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Who says these people are conservatives an R next to your name does not make your beliefs on government conservative

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Quote: Rufus T Firefly wrote in post #21

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Quote: Justme wrote in post #19

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Quote: Eglman wrote in post #18

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Who says these people are conservatives an R next to your name does not make your beliefs on government conservative

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This I agree with.

But the self proclaimed conservatives who sat out voting obama out of office is what I addressed.

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As bad and as crappy a candidate as Mitt Romney was, I voted for him.

But I live in a blue state (Which Reagan carried, BTW), so it doesn't matter.

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I'm not telling anyone how to feel. But those who don't participate have to own that their inaction had a negative impact this time around.

No one will ever sell me on the fantasy Romney was no better than Obama. I wasn't in his corner until it was clear he was going to be the candidate, that's what got me banned from FR, lol.

Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #10

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Cedric I think I can defend the point I made fairly well. Maybe you should read what I write more carefully before launching into your attacks.

TM: "Plus, when the towel was thrown in by the McC duo, things were beginning to move Cruz's way."

Monday Oct 14th
Obamacare's Website Is Crashing Because It Doesn't Want You To Know How Costly Its Plans Are
“Healthcare.gov was initially going to include an option to browse before registering,” report Christopher Weaver and Louise Radnofsky in the Wall Street Journal. “But that tool was delayed, people familiar with the situation said.” Why was it delayed? “An HHS spokeswoman said the agency wanted to ensure that users were aware of their eligibility for subsidies that could help pay for coverage, before they started seeing the prices of policies.”

Thursday Oct 17th
"Congressional Republicans conceded defeat on Wednesday in their bitter budget fight with President Obama over the new health care law as the House and Senate approved last-minute legislation ending..."

Monday Oct 21st
A defiant President Obama said Monday he is mad about problems with a new health care website, but argued that the Affordable Care Act as a whole is working as planned.
While Healthcare.gov "hasn't worked as smoothly as it was supposed to work," Obama said during a White House speech that uninsured Americans have been able to sign up for coverage.
"The product -- the health insurance -- is good," Obama said. "The prices are good. It is a good deal."
Facing attacks from Republicans and other critics of Obamacare, the president said his health care team is reaching out to tech experts to help fix massive website problems that have hampered the rollout

Thursday Oct 24th
"Senators Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Mark Begich of Alaska and Mary Landrieu of Lousiana, Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire and Joe Manchin of West Virginia have called for delaying the March 31 deadline in response to the technical problems with the Obamacare website." A White House offensive to shore up support for Obamacare failed Wednesday to prevent a series of high-profile Democratic defections from the party line.

Citing the troubled rollout of the principal Obamacare website, three more Democratic senators called for an extension of the March 31 deadline under the Affordable Care Act for most Americans to have health insurance.
Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Mark Begich of Alaska and Mary Landrieu of Lousiana — are up for re-election next year.
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.), who also is up for re-election, made a similiar proposal on Tuesday.
And a fifth Democrat, conservative Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia, called for more dramatic action — delaying the so-called “individual mandate” for Americans to own health insurance for an entire year."

Tuesday Oct 29th
President Barack Obama’s glitch-ridden Obamacare website rollout has plunged him into a personal anxiety never before seen during his presidency, a professional body-language expert told The Daily Caller. “Basically, we’re seeing an Obama that we’ve never seen before,” body language expert Dr. Lillian Glass told TheDC. “Body language-wise, he looks tentative. He looks down. We see an embarrassed Obama.”

Now one might argue that the only reason things broke was because the Republicans had backed down. We'll never really know. But the damning facts about ACA were beginning to emerge and the tide was turning.

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