If they left everybody the hell alone..people wouldnt even have to create stupid remarks like this.

I dont get why insurance companies ever agreed to any of this...because in the end, people cant afford what is offered and even if they try to pay it..ya cant get blood out of a stone. Accts will lapse and they wont get the money they need. This was all crystal clear from the beginning. Why couldnt people see that?

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If they left everybody the hell alone..people wouldnt even have to create stupid remarks like this.

I dont get why insurance companies ever agreed to any of this...because in the end, people cant afford what is offered and even if they try to pay it..ya cant get blood out of a stone. Accts will lapse and they wont get the money they need. This was all crystal clear from the beginning. Why couldnt people see that?

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The problem is..the people who didnt have insurance...want NO payer. Doesnt this govt get it..they dont want to PAY! People HAVE money for what they want. They have internet, computers, cars, and beloved cell phones. They DONT want to pay, out of sight premiums, for something they may or may not need. Buying insurance, especially for the young..is like gambling. You most likely dont need it..but what if..... Not many young people care about the "what if". They dont want it and if they get sick..they will worry about it then.

Ya cant force people to buy something they dont want...you want to fine them? They will probably be happier paying that. I heard that the only way they can get the money..is out of peoples tax returns. Wouldnt it be a laugh if then people stopped paying their taxes..lol

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If they left everybody the hell alone..people wouldnt even have to create stupid remarks like this.

I dont get why insurance companies ever agreed to any of this...because in the end, people cant afford what is offered and even if they try to pay it..ya cant get blood out of a stone. Accts will lapse and they wont get the money they need. This was all crystal clear from the beginning. Why couldnt people see that?

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The problem is..the people who didnt have insurance...want NO payer. Doesnt this govt get it..they dont want to PAY! People HAVE money for what they want. They have internet, computers, cars, and beloved cell phones. They DONT want to pay, out of sight premiums, for something they may or may not need. Buying insurance, especially for the young..is like gambling. You most likely dont need it..but what if..... Not many young people care about the "what if". They dont want it and if they get sick..they will worry about it then.

Ya cant force people to buy something they dont want...you want to fine them? They will probably be happier paying that. I heard that the only way they can get the money..is out of peoples tax returns. Wouldnt it be a laugh if then people stopped paying their taxes..lol

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The problem is..the people who didnt have insurance...want NO payer. Doesnt this govt get it..they dont want to PAY! People HAVE money for what they want. They have internet, computers, cars, and beloved cell phones. They DONT want to pay, out of sight premiums, for something they may or may not need. Buying insurance, especially for the young..is like gambling. You most likely dont need it..but what if..... Not many young people care about the "what if". They dont want it and if they get sick..they will worry about it then.

Ya cant force people to buy something they dont want...you want to fine them? They will probably be happier paying that. I heard that the only way they can get the money..is out of peoples tax returns. Wouldnt it be a laugh if then people stopped paying their taxes..lol

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I saw it on television last night. There will be single payer health care. Every American will have health care coverage. It's the wave of the future. Get used to it because it is coming.

That was the point of the exchanges. Dump enough people on the exchanges and force an artificial need for mandatory coverage immediately on the system.

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I do not agree that single payer is a fete accompli.

The Socialists were hoping to reach "critical mass" in terms of sign-ups before word got out about premium costs and deductibles skyrocketing.

This roll-out is so disastrous that now they'll never reach that critical mass.

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I dont get why insurance companies ever agreed to any of this......

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Ya cant force people to buy something they dont want..

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Who needs individuals buying their own insurance when the government will do it for you and the In.Companys can set whatever price they want

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Ok. The govt wont even be able to make payments on the subsidies they are offering. They are BROKE. So..I dont think they will be much help. The way they lied about other things..the promise to pay a portion will disappear. People who are expecting these and bought insurance will let them lapse. People who bought insurance on their own..with outrageous premiums and deductables...will let them lapse. Middle income families who had insurance they could afford and now have to pay 3x the price..will let them lapse. You cant get blood out of a stone. If they are fining people..and the only way to get that money is from tax returns..what do you think these people will do? They will make sure they have to pay a small sum, rather than get a return.

Nothing gets people more twisted then someone with their hands in their pocketbooks. This is what I mean when I say...they cant force people. If you dont have the money..you aint buyin'.

As far as single payer..I hope THEY (the govt) plan on paying it for everyone. I think the people in this country have had it. I see it comments on articles. I see it on FB. I have seen little praise or happiness out of anyone buying this insurance. And I have been looking. Those who are quiet..or those at the DU who comment on negative obamacare posts..just havent been burned yet. Unless they plan on hitting peoples bank accts, I doubt that many will pay for it.

I was curious to see how it works in the UK and this is what I found:

Healthcare in England is mainly provided by England's public health service, the National Health Service, that provides healthcare to all permanent residents of the United Kingdom that is free at the point of use and paid for from general taxation. Since health is a devolved matter, there are differences with the provisions for healthcare elsewhere in the United Kingdom.[1] Though the public system dominates healthcare provision in England, private health care and a wide variety of alternative and complementary treatments are available for those willing to pay.

So...are we getting it free..that single payer? The country who they seem to want to follow..is giving theirs FREE. I think this might be what led to the confusion, with most people who thought obamacare was free.

Whatever this govt does..I think they have a fight on their hands as more and more people are unable to afford to be covered.

I find it hard to believe American doctors are going to allow this crap. I think they'd retire first, or leave the country.

Other than reminding the sheeple - constantly - that not a single one of them voted for this trainwreck, maybe Republicans should just butt out at this point. The truth is most dullards are only capable of learning through personal suffering.

"Elections have consequences."