Just because someone hands you the Keys does not mean that the GOP will use them if it where up to Mitch they will hand them back over and say their sorry for making the dems give them the keys in the first place:

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“It’s time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete,” Reid said in a lengthy floor speech on Thursday morning.

A furious Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who tried to recess the Senate for the day before the rules change could get a vote, said after the minority’s power was limited by Democrats: “I don’t think this is a time to be talking about reprisal. I think it’s a time to be sad about what has been done to the United States Senate.”

But McConnell quickly noted that Republicans could fix the problem in the upcoming midterm elections by reversing the rules if they regain the majority: “The solution to this problem is an election. The solution to this problem is at the ballot box. We look forward to having a great election on 2014.”

Read more at http://angrywhitedude.com/2013/11/mitch-...qX7DzBY2HMpe.99

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The weakness of Mitch is clear

I knew you would enjoy that that is why i chose that source I know you prefer Huffpo or MediaMatters

I am on my Ipad having lunch at Cracker Barrel for some reason it shows up as guest

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“It’s time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete,” Reid said in a lengthy floor speech on Thursday morning.

A furious Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who tried to recess the Senate for the day before the rules change could get a vote, said after the minority’s power was limited by Democrats: “I don’t think this is a time to be talking about reprisal. I think it’s a time to be sad about what has been done to the United States Senate.”

But McConnell quickly noted that Republicans could fix the problem in the upcoming midterm elections by reversing the rules if they regain the majority: “The solution to this problem is an election. The solution to this problem is at the ballot box. We look forward to having a great election on 2014.”

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The weakness of Mitch is clear

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If the Democrats now have the majority of votes in the Senate, the Democrats now have the majority of votes in the Senate. In a constitutional representative democracy, the guys with the most votes get their way. That is not "weakness". That is electoral reality.

The way you change that is to win more votes in the Senate in the next election and that is exactly what Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has said needs to be done. With ObamaCare now polling at 31%, that will be done unless another "Save ObamaCare from itself with a delay or we shoot the dog" stunt is pulled by the Ted Cruz wing. There is a reason that Obama himself is now embracing Ted Cruz-style delays: Delays save Obamacare from itself by putting angry voters to sleep. There is a reason that Ted Cruz's nationwide Favorabilty went from Positive 6 to Negative 10 in four weeks: America fears people that threaten to shoot the dog more that they fear ObamaCare.



As the Sicilian Mafia (that knows a thing or two about fighting for keeps) says, "Revenge is a dish best served cold ". With the Democrats now having a majority vote in the Senate until the next election changes that, what exactly is Mitch McConnell supposed to do right now in order that those that demand revenge right here and right now do not call him "weak"?

Beat Harry Reid unconscious with a cane?

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http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/hist...rles_Sumner.htm

May 22, 1856: The Caning of Senator Charles Sumner

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“It’s time to change the Senate before this institution becomes obsolete,” Reid said in a lengthy floor speech on Thursday morning.

A furious Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), who tried to recess the Senate for the day before the rules change could get a vote, said after the minority’s power was limited by Democrats: “I don’t think this is a time to be talking about reprisal. I think it’s a time to be sad about what has been done to the United States Senate.”

But McConnell quickly noted that Republicans could fix the problem in the upcoming midterm elections by reversing the rules if they regain the majority: “The solution to this problem is an election. The solution to this problem is at the ballot box. We look forward to having a great election on 2014.”

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The weakness of Mitch is clear

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If the Democrats now have the majority of votes in the Senate, the Democrats now have the majority of votes in the Senate. In a constitutional representative democracy, the guys with the most votes get their way. That is not "weakness". That is electoral reality.

The way you change that is to win more votes in the Senate in the next election and that is exactly what Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has said needs to be done. With ObamaCare now polling at 31%, that will be done unless another "Save ObamaCare from itself with a delay or we shoot the dog" stunt is pulled by the Ted Cruz wing. There is a reason that Obama himself is now embracing Ted Cruz-style delays: Delays save Obamacare from itself by putting angry voters to sleep. There is a reason that Ted Cruz's nationwide Favorabilty went from Positive 6 to Negative 10 in four weeks: America fears people that threaten to shoot the dog more that they fear ObamaCare.

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1. Everyone knows the winning party gets the greatest number of seats. "The way you change that is to win more votes in the Senate" Where are you going with this? If one side said they didn't need to win elections, then I'd see your point, but that isn't what's happening. Cruz wants to win seats.

2. Obama is not embracing a "Ted Cruz-style delay" As a member of the legislature Ted Cruz was refusing to appropriate the funds for ACA. It is the legislature's job to appropriate funding for expenditures. Obama is operating outside his executive branch powers, decreeing revisions to the law. It's the function of the legislative branch of government to write and re-write laws. Obama has sworn by oath and has been charged in the Constitution to uphold and enforce those laws. We all know how that's going.

3. The Ted Cruz popularity problem you cite, "went from Positive 6 to Negative 10 in four weeks" seems to be a bit of a distortion as well. A poll taken right after the government shutdown ended saw Cruz this way: 11-1-2013 "In the wake of the government shutdown and criticism from leading Democrats, Sen. Ted Cruz is still seen as the leader of the Republican party among GOP voters, a new poll shows. Trailing the Texas senator were Chris Christie with 17 percent and Speaker John Boehner with 15 percent. Among Cruz’s Senate colleagues were Rand Paul with 9 percent, John McCain with 7 percent and Mitch McConnell with 4 percent." http://www.politico.com/story/2013/11/po...l#ixzz2ldhrTAHr

So who's having the leadership crisis? the guy who comes in at 4% I'd say. And this poll was taken the week after the shutdown ended in late Oct.

4. I read that McConnell would reverse the "nuclear option" rule just put in place by Reid and company to allow Obama greater executive powers while the Senate is in his camp. Should the republicans re-take the Senate, McConnell would, to the republican's own disadvantage, immediately reverse that decision. That makes sense how? The Dems will have had three years of Obama appointee damage by then and we would change our advantage back?

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4. I read that McConnell would reverse the "nuclear option" rule just put in place by Reid and company to allow Obama greater executive powers while the Senate is in his camp. Should the republicans re-take the Senate, McConnell would, to the republican's own disadvantage, immediately reverse that decision. That makes sense how? The Dems will have had three years of Obama appointee damage by then and we would change our advantage back?

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4. I read that McConnell would reverse the "nuclear option" rule just put in place by Reid and company to allow Obama greater executive powers while the Senate is in his camp. Should the republicans re-take the Senate, McConnell would, to the republican's own disadvantage, immediately reverse that decision. That makes sense how? The Dems will have had three years of Obama appointee damage by then and we would change our advantage back?

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"But McConnell quickly noted that Republicans could fix the problem in the upcoming midterm elections by reversing the rules if they regain the majority: "

no new link needed. it's from that same article. that'd be what they call "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory."

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Oh, Eglmans link

It's political doublespeak in the GOP favor if nothing else. He's discussing the GOP takeover and how fair we would be..yeah, right lol. Dishonesty from Reid and winning elections was the message I got.

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That's not true, they are held accountable to the degree they can be.Cruz for example. Winning elections is the only real accountability that matters

On this matter McConnell called reid out nicely. McConnell on nuclear option: “If you like the rules of the Senate, you can keep them!”

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