Heads Obama wins and we get more government. Tails, Boehner caves and we get more government.

Heads GOP gets blame. Tails Obama get lauded, approval rating skyrockets (even further than it's at now).

Sounds great.

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There is no difference in ryan and boner, elect allen west as speaker, make the rats squeal.

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Quote: Weird Tolkienish Figure wrote in post #16

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Heads Obama wins and we get more government. Tails, Boehner caves and we get more government.

Heads GOP gets blame. Tails Obama get lauded, approval rating skyrockets (even further than it's at now).

Sounds great.

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If I were Boehner, I'd quit and let those feral idiot savants who scuttled Plan B stew in their own juice.

Enjoy it, die harders. You're going to get the blame for everybody's taxes going up in 12 days.

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Congress was never set up for this stupid ideal of back room deals by the speaker and finding out what is in the bill after you vote for it.
Why have committees and all the addition 500 plus members. A speaker making back room deals and demanding the house support him is anti democracy. And anti constitutional.

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All of which is beside the point. What happens now is that Boehner has less credibility in negotiations and anything Obama and the Senate come up with will be worse than what he had yesterday.

The Democrats have the upper hand here and their leverage increases as the days go on.

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Boner can step down at anytime and as Mark Levin would say, the party would be better off. The republican/conservative party does not run on rasing taxes. Cut spending and go home,

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Mark Levin doesn't have to run for office. He's full of bombast and bullshit, and is an expert at working his adherents into a frenzy.

It doesn't really matter what the GOP runs on. The party is about to get blamed for the largest tax increase in American history. And too many in the party are cheering it.

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Congress was never set up for this stupid ideal of back room deals by the speaker and finding out what is in the bill after you vote for it.
Why have committees and all the addition 500 plus members. A speaker making back room deals and demanding the house support him is anti democracy. And anti constitutional.

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All of which is beside the point. What happens now is that Boehner has less credibility in negotiations and anything Obama and the Senate come up with will be worse than what he had yesterday.

The Democrats have the upper hand here and their leverage increases as the days go on.

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There is no difference in ryan and boner, elect allen west as speaker, make the rats squeal.

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I disagree that there is no difference between Boehner and Ryan, and Allen West lost his election, so he's not an option.

Ryan will make them squeal as well.

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Quote: musiclady wrote in post #17

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #5

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There is no difference in ryan and boner, elect allen west as speaker, make the rats squeal.

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I disagree that there is no difference between Boehner and Ryan, and Allen West lost his election, so he's not an option.

Ryan will make them squeal as well.

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Actually, the Speaker of the House is not required to be a member of Congress. It's whomever they House wants as far as I know.

Allen West would be the perfect revenge on the left.

It won't happen.

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