Rick Moran

That rush of air you feel on your face is America going over the fiscal cliff.

In one of the most gruesome moments for a speaker of the House in recent history, John Boehner was forced to give up on getting a vote for his "Plan B" fiscal cliff proposal that would raise taxes on millionaires and cut virtually nothing from entitlements.

Beohner was hoping to put pressure on the White House to come to a deal more to the GOP's liking. Instead, his own caucus rejected him, castrated him, and tossed him to the wolves in what might be a sign that his speakership is in trouble.

The decision to break off negotiations with Obama and try to pass his alternative plan in the House was questionable to begin with. Senate Democrats promised not to take it up, and Obama promised a veto. As a statement that the GOP was serious about negotiations, it fell far short and would have done little to deflect blame from Republicans.

Clearly, Boehner was better off negotiating with the president rather than his own caucus. At least a failure with Obama wouldn't have made him seem like such a jellyfish. Now, after this performance at a closed door meeting with Republicans, it's hard to see Boehner as speaker in the next Congress.

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Boehner's Plan B failure may cost him his speakership

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Lord, may it be so.

If I were Boehner, I'd quit and let those feral idiot savants who scuttled Plan B stew in their own juice.

Enjoy it, die harders. You're going to get the blame for everybody's taxes going up in 12 days.

Paul Ryan for Speaker of the House!

NOW!

There is no difference in ryan and boner, elect allen west as speaker, make the rats squeal.

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If I were Boehner, I'd quit and let those feral idiot savants who scuttled Plan B stew in their own juice.

Enjoy it, die harders. You're going to get the blame for everybody's taxes going up in 12 days.

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Congress was never set up for this stupid ideal of back room deals by the speaker and finding out what is in the bill after you vote for it.
Why have committees and the addition 500 plus members what are they there for, rubber stamps for the speaker. A speaker making back room deals and demanding the house support him is anti democracy. And anti constitutional. I voted for my representative to represent me, not the speaker and not the republican party.

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Congress was never set up for this stupid ideal of back room deals by the speaker and finding out what is in the bill after you vote for it.
Why have committees and all the addition 500 plus members. A speaker making back room deals and demanding the house support him is anti democracy. And anti constitutional.

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Congress was never set up for this stupid ideal of back room deals by the speaker and finding out what is in the bill after you vote for it.
Why have committees and all the addition 500 plus members. A speaker making back room deals and demanding the house support him is anti democracy. And anti constitutional.

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All of which is beside the point. What happens now is that Boehner has less credibility in negotiations and anything Obama and the Senate come up with will be worse than what he had yesterday.

The Democrats have the upper hand here and their leverage increases as the days go on.

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Congress was never set up for this stupid ideal of back room deals by the speaker and finding out what is in the bill after you vote for it.
Why have committees and all the addition 500 plus members. A speaker making back room deals and demanding the house support him is anti democracy. And anti constitutional.

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All of which is beside the point. What happens now is that Boehner has less credibility in negotiations and anything Obama and the Senate come up with will be worse than what he had yesterday.

The Democrats have the upper hand here and their leverage increases as the days go on.

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Boner can step down at anytime and as Mark Levin would say, the party would be better off. The republican/conservative party does not run on rasing taxes. Cut spending and go home,

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Congress was never set up for this stupid ideal of back room deals by the speaker and finding out what is in the bill after you vote for it.
Why have committees and the addition 500 plus members what are they there for, rubber stamps for the speaker. A speaker making back room deals and demanding the house support him is anti democracy. And anti constitutional. I voted for my representative to represent me, not the speaker and not the republican party.

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The last twenty years how many times has the two parties bent the people over and stuck it to them with a five hundred page bill that not one person has read. Make that 3000 page bill. Written by staff. This stuff has got to stop.

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[quote=nerd|p3966][quote=sinkspur|p3961][quote=nerd|p3955]It doesn't really matter what the GOP runs on.

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Mark represents more people than you and the republicans would get blame no matter what they did and it will still be that way, so if you are going to get the blame, get it for doing the right thing.