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Mixed bag problems. This article clearly does not delineate between the immediate response by Blanco(disaster of the disaster) and the clean-up, rebuilding efforts championed by W. The initial response by FEMA was a mess as run by "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" and when General Honore took over things got moving. Under Brownie trucks with badly needed supplies sat for days in surrounding states. FEMA clearly fell down on the job.

FWIW I heard some stories over the weekend critizing the Federal resposne ot Sandy, in spite of Governor Krispy Kreme's comments.

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But that doesn't negate the fact that Bush was warning LA before the storm and providing help immediately after (which the Gov of LA refused).

The hysteria that it was Bush's fault was a complete lie, as was the refusal to cover the Gov and Mayor's fault in the mess.

And Fox was complicit in it.

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Pretty sure I covered that in the second sentence.

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #10

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Quote: Rufus T Firefly wrote in post #9

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1. inability or refusal of the GOP to defend itself
2. republicans in any campaign always fight an uphill battle against the media

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2 explains 1

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #8

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #5

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Mixed bag problems. This article clearly does not delineate between the immediate response by Blanco(disaster of the disaster) and the clean-up, rebuilding efforts championed by W. The initial response by FEMA was a mess as run by "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" and when General Honore took over things got moving. Under Brownie trucks with badly needed supplies sat for days in surrounding states. FEMA clearly fell down on the job.

FWIW I heard some stories over the weekend critizing the Federal resposne ot Sandy, in spite of Governor Krispy Kreme's comments.

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But that doesn't negate the fact that Bush was warning LA before the storm and providing help immediately after (which the Gov of LA refused).

The hysteria that it was Bush's fault was a complete lie, as was the refusal to cover the Gov and Mayor's fault in the mess.

And Fox was complicit in it.

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Pretty sure I covered that in the second sentence.

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But the "heck of a job" line you used, used primarily by leftists to skewer President Bush, was actually his repeating a line said by Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, who was praising Brown for the federal response (as was Haley Barbour in MS).

Governor Blanco was the problem in LA, not President Bush.

But the left used the response to a horrific storm as a political shotgun to destroy the President.

And clearly, many conservatives fell for it.

And haven't figured it out yet.

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #20

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #19

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Those are undeniable truths....period end of story.

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Try it this way next time:

THOSE ARE UNDENIABLE TRUTHS!! PERIOD END OF STORY!!

Ya gotta show people that you really, really, really mean it.

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Quote: musiclady wrote in post #16

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #8

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #5

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Mixed bag problems. This article clearly does not delineate between the immediate response by Blanco(disaster of the disaster) and the clean-up, rebuilding efforts championed by W. The initial response by FEMA was a mess as run by "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" and when General Honore took over things got moving. Under Brownie trucks with badly needed supplies sat for days in surrounding states. FEMA clearly fell down on the job.

FWIW I heard some stories over the weekend critizing the Federal resposne ot Sandy, in spite of Governor Krispy Kreme's comments.

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But that doesn't negate the fact that Bush was warning LA before the storm and providing help immediately after (which the Gov of LA refused).

The hysteria that it was Bush's fault was a complete lie, as was the refusal to cover the Gov and Mayor's fault in the mess.

And Fox was complicit in it.

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Pretty sure I covered that in the second sentence.

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But the "heck of a job" line you used, used primarily by leftists to skewer President Bush, was actually his repeating a line said by Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, who was praising Brown for the federal response (as was Haley Barbour in MS).

Governor Blanco was the problem in LA, not President Bush.

But the left used the response to a horrific storm as a political shotgun to destroy the President.

And clearly, many conservatives fell for it.

And haven't figured it out yet.

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Interesting history you have there. So your defense is W parroting someone else? W exhibited poor leadership in two aspects.
1. Putting Brown in charge in the first place as a politcial payback.
2. Not getting rid of him soon enough when it was clear to the whole country Brown sucked at the job.

Those are undeniable truths. Try and spin all you want about Blanco and company but FEMA failed at the Federal responsibilty in the period right after the event - period end of story.

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #19

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Quote: musiclady wrote in post #16

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #8

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #5

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Mixed bag problems. This article clearly does not delineate between the immediate response by Blanco(disaster of the disaster) and the clean-up, rebuilding efforts championed by W. The initial response by FEMA was a mess as run by "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" and when General Honore took over things got moving. Under Brownie trucks with badly needed supplies sat for days in surrounding states. FEMA clearly fell down on the job.

FWIW I heard some stories over the weekend critizing the Federal resposne ot Sandy, in spite of Governor Krispy Kreme's comments.

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But that doesn't negate the fact that Bush was warning LA before the storm and providing help immediately after (which the Gov of LA refused).

The hysteria that it was Bush's fault was a complete lie, as was the refusal to cover the Gov and Mayor's fault in the mess.

And Fox was complicit in it.

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Pretty sure I covered that in the second sentence.

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But the "heck of a job" line you used, used primarily by leftists to skewer President Bush, was actually his repeating a line said by Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, who was praising Brown for the federal response (as was Haley Barbour in MS).

Governor Blanco was the problem in LA, not President Bush.

But the left used the response to a horrific storm as a political shotgun to destroy the President.

And clearly, many conservatives fell for it.

And haven't figured it out yet.

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Interesting history you have there. So your defense is W parroting someone else? W exhibited poor leadership in two aspects.
1. Putting Brown in charge in the first place as a politcial payback.
2. Not getting rid of him soon enough when it was clear to the whole country Brown sucked at the job.

Those are undeniable truths. Try and spin all you want about Blanco and company but FEMA failed at the Federal responsibilty in the period right after the event - period end of story.

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #22

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #19

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Quote: musiclady wrote in post #16

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #8

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Quote: musiclady wrote in post #6

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #5

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Mixed bag problems. This article clearly does not delineate between the immediate response by Blanco(disaster of the disaster) and the clean-up, rebuilding efforts championed by W. The initial response by FEMA was a mess as run by "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" and when General Honore took over things got moving. Under Brownie trucks with badly needed supplies sat for days in surrounding states. FEMA clearly fell down on the job.

FWIW I heard some stories over the weekend critizing the Federal resposne ot Sandy, in spite of Governor Krispy Kreme's comments.

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But that doesn't negate the fact that Bush was warning LA before the storm and providing help immediately after (which the Gov of LA refused).

The hysteria that it was Bush's fault was a complete lie, as was the refusal to cover the Gov and Mayor's fault in the mess.

And Fox was complicit in it.

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Pretty sure I covered that in the second sentence.

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But the "heck of a job" line you used, used primarily by leftists to skewer President Bush, was actually his repeating a line said by Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, who was praising Brown for the federal response (as was Haley Barbour in MS).

Governor Blanco was the problem in LA, not President Bush.

But the left used the response to a horrific storm as a political shotgun to destroy the President.

And clearly, many conservatives fell for it.

And haven't figured it out yet.

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Interesting history you have there. So your defense is W parroting someone else? W exhibited poor leadership in two aspects.
1. Putting Brown in charge in the first place as a politcial payback.
2. Not getting rid of him soon enough when it was clear to the whole country Brown sucked at the job.

Those are undeniable truths. Try and spin all you want about Blanco and company but FEMA failed at the Federal responsibilty in the period right after the event - period end of story.

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Next thing you well see is how great it was we paid all those billions for the sorry job Fema did.

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #22

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #19

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Quote: musiclady wrote in post #16

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #8

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Quote: musiclady wrote in post #6

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Quote: The_Nevadan wrote in post #5

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Mixed bag problems. This article clearly does not delineate between the immediate response by Blanco(disaster of the disaster) and the clean-up, rebuilding efforts championed by W. The initial response by FEMA was a mess as run by "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" and when General Honore took over things got moving. Under Brownie trucks with badly needed supplies sat for days in surrounding states. FEMA clearly fell down on the job.

FWIW I heard some stories over the weekend critizing the Federal resposne ot Sandy, in spite of Governor Krispy Kreme's comments.

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But that doesn't negate the fact that Bush was warning LA before the storm and providing help immediately after (which the Gov of LA refused).

The hysteria that it was Bush's fault was a complete lie, as was the refusal to cover the Gov and Mayor's fault in the mess.

And Fox was complicit in it.

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Pretty sure I covered that in the second sentence.

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But the "heck of a job" line you used, used primarily by leftists to skewer President Bush, was actually his repeating a line said by Governor Bob Riley of Alabama, who was praising Brown for the federal response (as was Haley Barbour in MS).

Governor Blanco was the problem in LA, not President Bush.

But the left used the response to a horrific storm as a political shotgun to destroy the President.

And clearly, many conservatives fell for it.

And haven't figured it out yet.

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Interesting history you have there. So your defense is W parroting someone else? W exhibited poor leadership in two aspects.
1. Putting Brown in charge in the first place as a politcial payback.
2. Not getting rid of him soon enough when it was clear to the whole country Brown sucked at the job.

Those are undeniable truths. Try and spin all you want about Blanco and company but FEMA failed at the Federal responsibilty in the period right after the event - period end of story.

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Next thing you well see is how great it was we paid all those billions for the sorry job Fema did.

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #22

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Next thing you well see is how great it was we paid all those billions for the sorry job Fema did.

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http://www.akdart.com/katrina2.html

Successful hijack from the essence of and discussion about the article.