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Playing for Islam Against Ourselves
Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog

WWI was caused less by the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, and more by Germany and Austria Hungary's eagerness in courting the Muslim Ottoman Empire.

Before and during WW2, England and Germany both assiduously courted Muslim support in the Middle East. The Holocaust was one of the byproducts of this rivalry, as Germany courted Muslims by appealing to the genocidal impulses of the Mufti of Jerusalem, ......

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I think this is a very simplistic view of World War One history and the origins of German anti-Semitism.

If anything World War One had a lot more to do with “democratic” France (who had always been the traditional enemy of everybody in Western Europe) courting “autocratic” Czarist Russia. Germany, which was just as democratic as the France, was then caught in the middle of two mobilizations. If there was ever an utterly pointless war, it was World War One and “saving France” was not worth all those rivers of British, American and even French blood. In my opinion, the 20th Century would have been spared a lot of grief if Imperial Germany had quickly defeated France in 1914, just as Germany had defeated France in the Franco-Prussian War. After Germany defeated France in the Franco-Prussian War in 1871, did it matter to anybody except France?

To paint Hitler’s use of anti-Semitism as an effort to court the Arabs of the Middle East is quite a historical reach. To Hitler, the Arabs were just another inferior race marked for future elimination. There was more than enough anti-Semitism in Europe. It did not need to be imported. While the local Arab Muslims in Jerusalem might have seen the Jews as local competitors, the Turks of the Ottoman Empire had always treated Jews as valuable financial and administrative assets.

The Muslim Arabs were not fighting with Lawrence of Arabia against the Muslim Turks because their British allies were mostly Protestant Christians. The Muslim Arabs fought on the side of the Protestant British because the Muslim Arabs were under no illusion that all Muslims are alike.

After the fall of the Ottoman Empire, it was the Republic of Turkey who made it a national priority to put the Islamist religious fanatics in their place at a time when most of the U.S. romanticized the entire Muslim world with American Shriners building lodge halls that looked like Muslim mosques. In the early 20th Century, the Turks were realists. America was not.

Today in America, the 1.3 Billion Muslims in the world are once again packaged into the same huge shrink-wrapped, sealed box with some Americans putting that box in the “Religion of Peace” aisle and some Americans putting that box in the “Devil Incarnate” aisle of the World supermarket. In reality, the Muslim world is the produce area of the supermarket with all sorts of different looking fruits as well as rotting apples mixed in among the fresh apples.

Right now, in the World news, we are seeing the cancer of Islamist religious fanaticism being ripped out of a country.

This is not being done by Barack Obama’s U.S. Army that refuses to acknowledge the existence of an Islamist fanatic in U.S. uniform at Fort Hood killing U.S. soldiers on U.S. soil. This is not being done by the U.S. Army in Afghanistan that has been asked to shed American blood in order to score political points for Obama (“George W. Bush dropped the ball in Afghanistan but I, Obama, picked it up.”) while Obama announces a bug out and negotiates with the Taliban.

This, instead, is being done by the Egyptian Army with the full support of millions of Egyptians.

Egypt recognizes what America refuses to recognize. Egypt recognizes that the problem is the religious fanatics and Egypt identifies the fanatics and roots them out. America insists upon treating all Muslims the same, as either Saints or Devils. Egypt recognizes that Egypt will not become Roman Catholic or Protestant or Hindu but that does not mean that the majority of the Egyptian population will tolerate the fanaticism of the Islamist religious fanatics.

How would the Egyptian Army have looked at the Fort Hood massacre?

For one thing, the Fort Hood massacre would never have occurred in Egypt because the Egyptian Army would have immediately identified the vocal Major Nidal Hasan as an obvious Islamist fanatic and taken the steps to pro-actively eliminate the danger. In order to pull off the massacre in the Egyptian Army, Major Hasan would have had to keep his Islamist cards very close to his chest. In order to pull off the massacre in the U.S. Army, Major Hasan only had to know that the U.S. Army put all Muslims in the same box and that Obama’s U.S. Army put that box in the “Religion of Peace” aisle.

The 1.3 Billion Muslims on the planet are not going to be eliminated. All the talking about “nuking them all into glass” is just impotent raging. Putting the “Ottoman Empire” in the same box with al Qaeda does not teach any historical lessons. It only fails to see that the Islamist fanatics have never been defeated by Politically Correct Western armies that put all Muslims in the same box. Historically, Islamist fanatics have been defeated and held in check by Politically Incorrect “Muslim” armies that, while have no intention of becoming Protestants or Catholics or Hindus, have absolutely no intention of having bearded, Islamist fanatics cramming the 12th Century down their throats. In Egypt. this is seen as the civil war between "the Beards" and the millions clean-shaven Egyptian demonatrators shouting "Down with the Beards!"

Look at it this way, if the 17th Century New England Puritans were reincarnated and, at the point of a gun, the Puritans tried to cram their version of 17th Century Puritan Christianity down the throat of the 21st Century U.S. Bible Belt, the Puritan religious fanatics would have an unarmed rebellion on their hands. The 21st Century Bible Belt Christians would not be rebelling against "Christianity". They would be rebelling against holier-than-thou fanatcism that they want no part of.

Where people like Jimmy Carter and Obama have utterly failed is in ignoring the danger of Islamist fanaticism while holding the opponents to the standards of ideal Jeffersonian democracy. As long as Islamist religious fanaticsm exist, it is not practical to hold its opponents to U.S. democratic standards. Once the Islamists gain power, they do whatever it takes to re-write the Constitution and eliminate all non-Islamist opposition.

So, the coup ("Yes, it was a coup.") in Egypt did not pass democratic standards as the Islamist fanatic that was leading Egypt down the road of disaster came to power under democratic circumstances. So what? Adolf Hitler came to power by a democratic process and a coup in 1930's Germany by the German Army would have saved 40 million lives. But the U.S. has an idiotic law that puts all coups in the same box and that puts that box in the Devil aisle of the supermaket. So, Washington must pretend that a coup is not a coup.

As long as America keeps thinking in terms of giant boxes in either the Good or Bad aisle, America will keep playing checkers instead of chess on the world stage.