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Quote: steph wrote in post #86

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If it was a fair playing field prior to the passage of the Civil Rights Act where the free market was allowed to function then there wouldn't have been a need to change the law allowing for equal access to such things as school, medical care and other things.

Besides, don't you think the segregationist laws would not have been in place if the Constitution was actually being adhered to? If you think it was just fine for the way things were then we are not anywhere on the same page politically.

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Refer to this post. Beyond that, I have nothing more to say to you on this topic.

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Quote: steph wrote in post #91

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No need to. I'm not a libertarian for a reason. This is one of the primary reasons. If it was up to some on the right us women, blacks and hispanics would still be second class citizens.

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Quote: FP123 wrote in post #92

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Quote: steph wrote in post #91

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No need to. I'm not a libertarian for a reason. This is one of the primary reasons. If it was up to some on the right us women, blacks and hispanics would still be second class citizens.

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While there have been some real contenders here, that post is the most nonsensical post that I've read on this site! Congratulations!

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Quote: Heisenberg wrote in post #84

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I was told that this site is an echo chamber.

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Good to see you posting Algernon.

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Quote: steph wrote in post #91

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No need to. I'm not a libertarian for a reason. This is one of the primary reasons. If it was up to some on the right us women, blacks and hispanics would still be second class citizens.

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While there have been some real contenders here, that post is the most nonsensical post that I've read on this site! Congratulations!

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I think there have been some clueless idiocies on all sides vis a vis civil rights.

The whole subject is full of factors which . . . as I type . . . I'm realizing I can't really discuss here. LOL.

I'll just say, Authentic Christians support civil rights rather wholesale. That may not mean we are to support the whole agenda of anyone carrying any glib banner.

And cultivating terminal long term dependency on the Federal big tit is not a solution for anyone seeking to rise out of poverty.

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Quote: FP123 wrote in post #92

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Quote: steph wrote in post #91

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No need to. I'm not a libertarian for a reason. This is one of the primary reasons. If it was up to some on the right us women, blacks and hispanics would still be second class citizens.

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While there have been some real contenders here, that post is the most nonsensical post that I've read on this site! Congratulations!

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Do a search on constitutional conservatism and the civil rights act being unconstitutional and guess who is all over it? The libertarians and Ron Paul.

The harsh reality is that the racist undertones of bitching about the Civil Rights act being unconstitutional is driving minorities away. If you want a snowball's chance in hell of ever winning a national election then you might want to consider not alienating the people you need to reach.

You actually have to win elections to pass your agenda. The last time I looked you have to have more votes to win not fewer. It seems the purists don't get that.

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Quote: FP123 wrote in post #98

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1. No "Constitutional Conservative" is ever going to win the POTUS (unless she/he somehow lies like hell and somehow tricks the media into supporting them as well) until after the whole house of cards comes crashing down. And to be frank, I have no idea what to call the type of candidate that you are attempting to gin up support for. Someone that is willing to sacrifice fidelity to the Constitution and Bill of Rights merely to win a political office is nothing but a worthless cur. We have a government filled to the brim with politicians of this stripe, they wear the labels "Republican" and "Democrat" quite proudly.

2. The "Republicans" are never going to gain a significant portion of the "minority" vote, unless they completely sell out their principals, at which point they are no different than your common garden variety Democrat. And even if they did completely sell out and go into complete pandering mode, the media will never support them, no matter what.

3. I didn't realize that "Libertarians" weren't welcome at RR. If that is Justme's desire, all she has to do is let me know and I will stop posting here. (If anyone didn't know that I was a Libertarian after all of my posts since the site began, I am sorry that I didn't make that point more clearly.) My first clear indication of the distaste for Libertarians came in your quoted post above, I see that casting lunatic aspersions at a large group of people with absolutely zero shame is apparently acceptable behavior; obviously very disappointing.

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Good. Glad to know that.

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This is the second time now the site as a whole has gotten heat for allowing the posting of different opinions.

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I'm a conservative libertarian.

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Quote: FP123 wrote in post #98

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3. I didn't realize that "Libertarians" weren't welcome at RR. If that is Justme's desire, all she has to do is let me know and I will stop posting here. (If anyone didn't know that I was a Libertarian after all of my posts since the site began, I am sorry that I didn't make that point more clearly.) My first clear indication of the distaste for Libertarians came in your quoted post above, I see that casting lunatic aspersions at a large group of people with absolutely zero shame is apparently acceptable behavior; obviously very disappointing.

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Everyone is welcome here. Ok, I lied, not progressives actually

This is the second time now the site as a whole has gotten heat for allowing the posting of different opinions. Either you want an echo chamber or you don't? I have no problem admitting I could very well be the dummy of the board, the least educated and less worldly wise - so please someone explain to me how the free and rational (or maybe not so rational) exchange of ideas is wrong and frowned upon?

Back on topic, I agree with the entire post I snipped from, btw.

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Zitat

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This is the second time now the site as a whole has gotten heat for allowing the posting of different opinions. Either you want an echo chamber or you don't? I have no problem admitting I could very well be the dummy of the board, the least educated and less worldly wise - so please someone explain to me how the free and rational (or maybe not so rational) exchange of ideas is wrong and frowned upon?

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My issue is that apparently it is acceptable to make a denigrating swipe at a whole group of people, myself included, such as:

Zitat

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No need to. I'm not a libertarian for a reason. This is one of the primary reasons. If it was up to some on the right us women, blacks and hispanics would still be second class citizens.

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Is it OK to play the race and gender cards in the name of "conservatism?" I don't see that as a "free and rational (or maybe not so rational) exchange of ideas," maybe you do? That is the same kind of over-generalized deflecting crap that lucysmom posts on TBL. I expect better here.

(And since we are having this discussion, the prior dissembling, deflecting post in response to my "rational discussion of the issues" in this post, was disappointing to say the least, which is why I was willing to end the conversation there, until I was gratuitously insulted.)