Quote: steph wrote in post #45

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Quote: Rev wrote in post #41

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Quote: steph wrote in post #23

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Let's be honest here...

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It's a good thing these Commies hired a stand-up American like Burt Lancaster to present this video, or I might have doubted the seriousness of the charges.

It's hard to believe that one left-wing, Communist propaganda video would be a life-changing event for someone who is as old and has been around politics as long as you have.

I mean, Burt Lancaster...

really?

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Of course this isn't what turned me around. It was just a good compilation video of the people behind the movement that has been more of a bane for American christianity than something fruitful. Like I said, Charles Stanley was upset about women's rights and equality in marriage. He's divorced now. Just sayin' There is plenty more out there. Maybe I need to post the Museum of Idolatry videos.

The fact is we are losing people hand over fist in the faith. Step outside the bubble and it's easier to see. Remember, I mentioned my own church pushing away a 12 year old boy because he wasn't the right race or socioeconomic background. All that kid needed was some time invested in him to turn his life around. He was told to leave. This was at the same time the church was spending MILLIONS on a new church across town. Just yesterday it was reported that an elderly lady is having to live in her car because her house burned down in January. She didn't have insurance but once again, where's the church? They could get together and rehab her house in a weekend or two for little or nothing. The churches in this area are too busy building multimillion dollar "recreation ministries" so the members don't have to interact with the world. I have a bitter taste in my mouth about this issue. This is just my midsized city wasting the resources God has given them on wood, hay and stubble. First Baptist Dallas just spent $130,000,000 on their new digs. The old ones were pretty nice. Just think of the number of people that could be helped by investing in the community and people instead of fru fru.

It's not all "communist propaganda". Some of the crazy crap going on in the Church today is turning people off because it's not of God.

http://www.alittleleaven.com/2010/07/mot...the-sermon.html

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Steph, I hate to say it but you are being manipulated by men who are targeting women to drive a wedge between them and the other conservatives. If you look at American history you will see see one very significant fact. It the "religious right" was going to install a theocracy it would already have happened here long ago because the "Religious Right" was in and controlled every aspect of our government, schools culture, etc. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06.html.

The most effective lies are the ones that contain some truth. What the dishonest sources are pushing at you takes exceptions, ones that have always existed in America, and tries to make them into a boogy man to scare away women. Divide and conquer, Enemy action. propaganda. Please read true American history and see that what they claim could happen would have happened long before now - the fact it did not destroys the deceptive attack from the God hating, Conservative-hating men who think they own you because you are a woman.

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Quote: Justme wrote in post #60

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Quote: steph wrote in post #46

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This is all we can do individually but it's naive to think that the major denominations aren't pushing their policies legislatively. They do. That is what is backfiring for the church.

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you (Steph) used Frank Schaeffer as your eye opener

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Here are some quotes from the apostate heretic, Franky Schaeffer:

“Atheism may be absolutely correct, or Buddhism may be. I could be completely wrong about theism.” Moreover, (atheists) Dawkins, Hitchins, and Harris “could be right”!

“Right Wing Christians” are “far more dangerous than the Dawkins [atheist] group.”

“Nobody is damned or going to Hell,”

“I’m an enormous fan of Obama. He’s a Christian and the greatest political leader of my lifetime.”

“religious paranoia boiling in the Tea Party”

Note Steph's stunning hypocrisy, condemning the Christian church for "pushing their policies legislatively" while doing the bidding of the
ultra-political-Obama-loving-Tea-Party-hating, Franky Schaeffer.

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oooh that guy isn't anything like his Dad

Quote: Mechanicos wrote in post #61

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It the "religious right" was going to install a theocracy it would already have happened here long ago because the "Religious Right" was in and controlled every aspect of our government, schools culture, etc. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/religion/rel06.html.

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Thank you for the link.