Cedric's "edited" quote:

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You've outlined a strategy.

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The actual quote:

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You've outlined a strategy. Is there an alternate strategy? I ask because, you know, that would eventually be going before the SAME court (I presume) that declared Zero-care CONSTITUTIONAL in the first place

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I hear NBC news is looking for a "creative" editor. Perhaps one has been located?

And let the record show - I tried.

"My whiteboard proves I'm and asshole"

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...yesterday, the a**hole cleaned his clock in the debate.

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Nailed it, @Rev: Fringeball: Progressive/GOPe speak used to describe Tea Party Patriots.

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Ok, ok.....


I'm not sure if everyone has noticed, but we don't have mods. I chased them off . Not funny, I know, but it is what it is.

That said can we be mindful to stay on topic, please? If simply trashing someone is the sole purpose of a post maybe we could limit it to one a thread. I don't mind the snark and the teasing when it's a give and take. But to have the sole purpose of a post being to attack one of us escapes me.

Where in the heck does it say we all have to agree on everything? I thought we were proud this wasn't an echo chamber


Sorry for the thread jack...carry on

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Nailed it, @Rev: Fringeball: Progressive/GOPe speak used to describe Tea Party Patriots.

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@FP123

The resident troll and 'Clean Debate' in the same sentence. Surely you Jest.

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In classic jötunn manner, it stalks, sows discension, posts inflammatory, ridiculing, false, extraneous, or off-topic messages. Instead of facts it resorts to Alinsky as its source of debating techniques.

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Ummmm......

Here's the topic: Mike Lee Debates Defunding Obamacare With Karl Rove

Here's my first comment: Rove Won.

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That still doesn't answer the question that was posed in a later post.

If Rove won...............

How is it a GOOD strategy to repeat the same problems (vis a vis Obamacare) that have proven to be failures to our economy? (i.e, Social Security, Medicare, Entitlements)

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He pointed out we don't have the votes to defund. We would need to rely on Red State Dems for starters

Unless your referring to Rufus's question. Then if Rove won we would have President Romney

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Finally an reasoned answer that doesn't deflect into unpleasantness, thanks for that.

I'll agree, Yes, 'we don't have the votes to defund' is what he pointed out. But I would point that that is the same exact thing that we were told with Social Security, Medicare etc. etc. Votes aren't there to stop them, so here we are decades later still burdened with them.

We can't afford that strategy this time. Obamacare WILL cripple the country if not outright destroy it.

So that's it? Let our county be decimated - oh well - se la vie? That's a good strategy??

Shouldn't we all deserve a better strategy than that?

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I answered a long time ago, a few times. In fact most of my posts go ignored Some of you are simply hell bent on fighting with Cedric. Fighting the system. And fighting the facts. How's it working out for you?

No, we don't deserve better. In the here and now we are stuck with what we have. By all means trash Rove, a nobody in the grand scheme of things, and pretend to further divide the party is a good way to achieve any sort of victory against the progressive united front.

We blew it, we let Obama win again. We are getting just what we deserve

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In classic jötunn manner, it stalks, sows discension, posts inflammatory, ridiculing, false, extraneous, or off-topic messages. Instead of facts it resorts to Alinsky as its source of debating techniques.

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Ummmm......

Here's the topic: Mike Lee Debates Defunding Obamacare With Karl Rove

Here's my first comment: Rove Won.

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That still doesn't answer the question that was posed in a later post.

If Rove won...............

How is it a GOOD strategy to repeat the same problems (vis a vis Obamacare) that have proven to be failures to our economy? (i.e, Social Security, Medicare, Entitlements)

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He pointed out we don't have the votes to defund. We would need to rely on Red State Dems for starters

Unless your referring to Rufus's question. Then if Rove won we would have President Romney

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Finally an reasoned answer that doesn't deflect into unpleasantness, thanks for that.

I'll agree, Yes, 'we don't have the votes to defund' is what he pointed out. But I would point that that is the same exact thing that we were told with Social Security, Medicare etc. etc. Votes aren't there to stop them, so here we are decades later still burdened with them.

We can't afford that strategy this time. Obamacare WILL cripple the country if not outright destroy it.

So that's it? Let our county be decimated - oh well - se la vie? That's a good strategy??

Shouldn't we all deserve a better strategy than that?

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I answered a long time ago, a few times. In fact most of my posts go ignored Some of you are simply hell bent on fighting with Cedric. Fighting the system. And fighting the facts. How's it working out for you?

No, we don't deserve better. In the here and now we are stuck with what we have. By all means trash Rove, a nobody in the grand scheme of things, and pretend to further divide the party is a good way to achieve any sort of victory against the progressive united front.

We blew it, we let Obama win again. We are getting just what we deserve

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I flat out reject your thesis that we got what we deserve. Perhaps the establishment got what they deserved but we the people most certainly did not.

We the people put out candidates that represented our interests only to have them face a blitzkrieg of attacks by establishment republicans who wanted to preserve their power and didn't want them in Washington. We faced attacks within and without.

To even make such a statement completely ignores the corruption within the REPUBLICAN party. You think the GOP is somehow less corrupt and it most certainly is not. The only people who blew it was Rove and all those who champion his corruption as being the lesser evil. Anyone that does this is just as responsible for the destruction of this country as the most rabid progressive could ever dream of being. Ever read Cicero? There is no greater danger than the enemy within. Deal with it, you know who you are.

As far as going after Cedric.....he's the establishment's counterpart to War from TBL......do the math.

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