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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #25

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Quote: Justme wrote in post #13

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My husband is the son of immigrants. Should I worry?

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Did they enter the country legally?

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Does that matter?

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Sure it matters.

Because people entering the country legally are given those government "flu" vaccine shots.

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We don't get shots

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Quote: Justme wrote in post #32

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Some will argue that by embracing this will equal votes, which is plain stupid. The votes will still go lib, because this is liberal policy. They can't claim they're being conservative or putting the best interest of the country first on this issue, period.

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #34

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #33

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There is something in this that is personal for Rubio........otherwise why would he be pushing something that will destroy the GOP (and thus his own job)?

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Nonsense.

"There is something in this that is personal for Rubio..."

You obviously have no way of knowing that.

Quit playin' amateur psychologist.

He's wrong on the issue.

Attack him on his stated position.

Psycho-babble should be the exclusive province of liberals.

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #36

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #35

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #34

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #33

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There is something in this that is personal for Rubio........otherwise why would he be pushing something that will destroy the GOP (and thus his own job)?

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Nonsense.

"There is something in this that is personal for Rubio..."

You obviously have no way of knowing that.

Quit playin' amateur psychologist.

He's wrong on the issue.

Attack him on his stated position.

Psycho-babble should be the exclusive province of liberals.

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Okay I'll bite. Perhaps you would care to explain why Rubio is doing this then? And don't give me it won't hurt the GOP BS because we all know it will. This bill will create legions of Democratic voters, whose sheer numbers alone at some future date, will obliterate any GOP candidate ever being elected ever again.

You do know that right?

So then why exactly is Rubio pushing this bill? Enquiring minds want to know.

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I don't care why.

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Zitat

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Okay I'll bite. Perhaps you would care to explain why Rubio is doing this then? And don't give me it won't hurt the GOP BS because we all know it will. This bill will create legions of Democratic voters, whose sheer numbers alone at some future date, will obliterate any GOP candidate ever being elected ever again.

You do know that right?

So then why exactly is Rubio pushing this bill? Enquiring minds want to know.

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I don't know if this applies to Rubio in particular, but I think I know why GOPe's like McClown and his ventriloquist dummy (aka Lindsey Graham) push crap like this immigration bill.

It's simple, really. They see themselves as entitled. They're the ELITES.

Think about it. In the past, when the republicans have been relegated to minority status, the elites in that party still had all the perks. The staffs, the limousine rides, the chauffeurs, the appearances on "Meet The Press." And, better yet, they can play the part of "opposition party", without taking the responsibility of actually governing.

Our "system" - such as it is - will ALWAYS give the appearance of being a two-party system of democrats and republicans when in reality it is a system of the governing elites versus the governed.

McClown and his stooge Graham (and perhaps Rubio) see themselves as part of the governing elites - the only difference between them and scum like Reid or Schumer is the "R" brand after their names.

They'll live the good life - no matter what "party" is in the majority.

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #39

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #37

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #36

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #34

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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #33

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There is something in this that is personal for Rubio........otherwise why would he be pushing something that will destroy the GOP (and thus his own job)?

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Nonsense.

"There is something in this that is personal for Rubio..."

You obviously have no way of knowing that.

Quit playin' amateur psychologist.

He's wrong on the issue.

Attack him on his stated position.

Psycho-babble should be the exclusive province of liberals.

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So then why exactly is Rubio pushing this bill? Enquiring (euphamism) minds want to know.

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I don't care why.

He's wrong on this issue....dangerously wrong....and I believe he will...be defeated.

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That just says it all right there don't it?

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Sure does.

Cedric The Great is a focused, bottom-line, success driven, winner who concentrates attaining victory.

He leaves navel gazing and asking "why" to those who by virtue of their inherent limitations can aspire to nothing higher.

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So why not just stand behind conservative values?

Votes?

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That's a good question - I can only offer my opinion.

First off, most politicians (of both the R and the D variety) don't really have deep core values. That's why you see nominal Roman Catholics like the Kennedys and the Cuomos views on life issues "evolve". And just to be fair and balanced, it happens on "our" side, too. See Rob Portman.

Since they don't have deep core values, it's just easier to sell "statism" or "socialism" than it is conservatism. It's preached in the media. It's preached in the schools (from Kindergarten to Graduate schools). It's ubiquitous.

Statism is the default order of things - conservatism has to be "sold." It requires effort to educate people as to why conservatism is better. It requires no effort to "give" people things.

So with that said, I think that's why you see the McClowns and the Grahams do what they do. They get much more "mileage" (i.e. face time in the MSM) knocking conservatives than they would ever get if they took on the Marxists like Obama and his co-horts.

And they get elected - and they get to live the good life. It's a win-win (for them, not us)

Quote: Rufus T Firefly wrote in post #38

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Okay I'll bite. Perhaps you would care to explain why Rubio is doing this then? And don't give me it won't hurt the GOP BS because we all know it will. This bill will create legions of Democratic voters, whose sheer numbers alone at some future date, will obliterate any GOP candidate ever being elected ever again.

You do know that right?

So then why exactly is Rubio pushing this bill? Enquiring minds want to know.

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I don't know if this applies to Rubio in particular, but I think I know why GOPe's like McClown and his ventriloquist dummy (aka Lindsey Graham) push crap like this immigration bill.

It's simple, really. They see themselves as entitled. They're the ELITES.

Think about it. In the past, when the republicans have been relegated to minority status, the elites in that party still had all the perks. The staffs, the limousine rides, the chauffeurs, the appearances on "Meet The Press." And, better yet, they can play the part of "opposition party", without taking the responsibility of actually governing.

Our "system" - such as it is - will ALWAYS give the appearance of being a two-party system of democrats and republicans when in reality it is a system of the governing elites versus the governed.

McClown and his stooge Graham (and perhaps Rubio) see themselves as part of the governing elites - the only difference between them and scum like Reid or Schumer is the "R" brand after their names.

They'll live the good life - no matter what "party" is in the majority.

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