Quote: steph wrote in post #88

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Newt would have been mercilessly slaughtered in the general. <snip>…He went on a cruise because Calista wanted to go on a cruise. He failed to get his game ground organized to ensure he was on the ballot in too many states. You just can't expect to win with that type of disorganization.

Newt has a long history to dig up some of his flaws. He was not fit to be POTUS. Debate performances and oratory skills should never be the only criteria to determine who will be POTUS. Newt was just as progressive as Mitt if not more so. All you need to do is look at how he set up all those non profits pushing all sorts of things like amnesty, global warming crap, idea for the individual mandate, etc. You don't remember the debate performance when Mitt zinged him on where he got the idea of the individual mandate from?

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Quote: Thunderbird wrote in post #112

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One of the reasons I didn't like Santorum was because of his ties to the healthcare industry after he left Congress.

Prior to leaving Santorum played a key role in passage of the underfunded Prescription Drug bill in 2003, and the quid pro quo seemed blatent.

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This was a good message....

Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #73

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I articulate the deepest-felt values of the American people. The Republican Party doesn't demonize prosperity. We celebrate success in our party," he said. "And let me be clear, if Republican leaders want to join this president in demonizing success and disparaging conservative values, then they're not going to be fit to be our nominee."

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Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #121

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Quote: steph wrote in post #88

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Newt would have been mercilessly slaughtered in the general. <snip>…He went on a cruise because Calista wanted to go on a cruise. He failed to get his game ground organized to ensure he was on the ballot in too many states. You just can't expect to win with that type of disorganization.

Newt has a long history to dig up some of his flaws. He was not fit to be POTUS. Debate performances and oratory skills should never be the only criteria to determine who will be POTUS. Newt was just as progressive as Mitt if not more so. All you need to do is look at how he set up all those non profits pushing all sorts of things like amnesty, global warming crap, idea for the individual mandate, etc. You don't remember the debate performance when Mitt zinged him on where he got the idea of the individual mandate from?

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Steph, I should emphasize that I was not saying that Newt was the best candidate. I was saying that Newt had captured the right message, the one that would have carried the Republicans to victory.

As per my post 82:

The Republican party would do well to look at the message that propelled Newt to the top in SC....

It was the stuff Republican victories were and are made of. Newt was channeling the Gipper.

Looking at his public life and his private life, Newt didn't/doesn't have the same track record as his talk, but he was on the campaign trail sending out the right message,

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Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #123

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This was a good message....

Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #73

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I articulate the deepest-felt values of the American people. The Republican Party doesn't demonize prosperity. We celebrate success in our party," he said. "And let me be clear, if Republican leaders want to join this president in demonizing success and disparaging conservative values, then they're not going to be fit to be our nominee."

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Quote: steph wrote in post #124

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He has a gift that could be used to communicate the message. It would be nice if he could coach some of the up and comers w/o the baggage before 2016. That is something that is direly needed. I have to say that Rand is doing a pretty good job in doing that at the moment.

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Quote: Frank Cannon wrote in post #125

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Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #123

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This was a good message....

Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #73

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I articulate the deepest-felt values of the American people. The Republican Party doesn't demonize prosperity. We celebrate success in our party," he said. "And let me be clear, if Republican leaders want to join this president in demonizing success and disparaging conservative values, then they're not going to be fit to be our nominee."

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Are you reposting something you already posted and saying it was a great post? Wow. That's a first.

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BTW, Newt is a lying sack of shit. "I articulate the deepest-felt values of the American people." Yeah. He articulates whatever he thinks someone wants to hear. If you go through his books, they are all full of Global Warming BS and big govt' solutions to solve them when that was chic. Was touring around with Hitlary promoting govt' control of health records when that was hip. Had a traveling show with Rev Sharpton to promote big govt' ideas for educations. Then he flushed all that stuff when he decided to become a Conservative and run for POTUS. You have a position on something, he will match it guaranteed or your money back.

Oh. Newt is also a crook. He was hip deep in the House banking scandal. He would have lost his job if he wasn't in such a safe GOP seat.

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In post #73 I said:

“Let's face it no one candidate had it all!”

No one, not Cain not Romney, not Paul, not Gingrich, Not Perry, not Huntsman and THAT is my "message"!

No one had it all . . .

. . . again . . . as FDR said . . . "If it happens in politics, it was PLANNED that way."

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Quote: Cedric wrote in post #105

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Quote: steph wrote in post #102

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Let's keep in mind that anyone who goes to Washington and then stays there afterwards is there for the money. It's why they refuse to listen to their constituents and instead sell us out to the highest bidder who pays them to use their inside knowledge to pass bad laws.

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If "they" are in Washington "afterwards" I assume you mean after they leave elected office.

And if they no longer hold elected office then their refusal "to listen to their constituents" is irrelevant since they're no longer in office.

Regarding those who "sell us out to the highest bidder who pays them to use their inside knowledge to pass bad laws", bribery laws might apply and the ever present ability to repeal bad laws surely does.

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Too many elected pols stop representing their constituents long before they leave office because of getting their palms greased by lobbyists. How many become very wealthy based on their political position? How many actually go to jail? Not many unless it's extremely blatant like Dollar Bill Jefferson.

I actually was referring to how Newt parlayed his position as former Speaker into a very lucrative lobbying career.

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #129

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Now that is the truth, how did broke dumbazz john "I served in Viet Nam" kerry, get to be worth 220 million?? He married rich women to keep him up, but did he steal their money. Bob dope son of no landed gentry, all he ever did was be a politician, but retired worth millions, you can go on and on.

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