Quote: Cedric wrote in post #93

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #92

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The rnc is a den of idiots.

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And they're all makin' sweet moolah, running a nationwide political organization while you're sittin' there in your underwear, blazin' away on your Tandy TRS-80 (with dial-up) keyboard.

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What is your point? It doesn't seem to relate to nerd's comment, but maybe I'm missing it.

Quote: nerd wrote in post #92

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Quote: algernonpj wrote in post #91

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Quote: nerd wrote in post #86

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Yes there was massive voter fraud by the democrats and obama, and what does the republican party do, let's talk about amnesty, that way those illegals voting illegally for the democrats will feel more at home voting for the democrats. Let's talk about amnesty. 23 million out of work, 83% Of the people say we have a big government spending problem, let's talk about spending 3 trillion more, we do not have, on amnesty.

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Better yet, in response to a lawsuit in 1981, the RNC agreed not to undertake any initiative to protect vote integrity / vote fraud if it interfered with political correctness

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/gop-legally-b...ing-vote-fraud/

http://gulagbound.com/36046/no-joke-the-...d/#.UKPfJWd4CSq .

http://judicialview.com/Court-Cases/Civi...ittee/10/201975

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The rnc is a den of idiots. How come, the democrats are never helt to what they agreed to yesterday but with the rnc, something some idiot agreed to 30 years ago last forever. Take it to court, fight dam it or keep hitting you old head with the hammer. Elected members of congress are not bound by an RNC agreement.

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The congress, like the RNC, is a den of wealthy idiots with R's and D's after their names. It's amazing what lies one will believe or not question if enough $$$$$$$$$$$$ are attached! And if carrots don't work, there's always sticks.

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #105

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Quote: steph wrote in post #102

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Let's keep in mind that anyone who goes to Washington and then stays there afterwards is there for the money. It's why they refuse to listen to their constituents and instead sell us out to the highest bidder who pays them to use their inside knowledge to pass bad laws.

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If "they" are in Washington "afterwards" I assume you mean after they leave elected office.

And if they no longer hold elected office then their refusal "to listen to their constituents" is irrelevant since they're no longer in office.

Regarding those who "sell us out to the highest bidder who pays them to use their inside knowledge to pass bad laws", bribery laws might apply and the ever present ability to repeal bad laws surely does.

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Too many elected pols stop representing their constituents long before they leave office because of getting their palms greased by lobbyists. How many become very wealthy based on their political position? How many actually go to jail? Not many unless it's extremely blatant like Dollar Bill Jefferson.

I actually was referring to how Newt parlayed his position as former Speaker into a very lucrative lobbying career.

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #107

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I'm sorry my point wasn't clear.

Let me try again.

Nerd has a really old, slow, piece of junk, computer.

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Nope. Not working.

Gratuitous insults do not add to the conversation.

Quote: steph wrote in post #109

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Too many elected pols stop representing their constituents long before they leave office because of getting their palms greased by lobbyists. How many become very wealthy based on their political position? How many actually go to jail? Not many unless it's extremely blatant like Dollar Bill Jefferson.

I actually was referring to how Newt parlayed his position as former Speaker into a very lucrative lobbying career.

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One of the reasons I didn't like Santorum was because of his ties to the healthcare industry after he left Congress.

Prior to leaving Santorum played a key role in passage of the underfunded Prescription Drug bill in 2003, and the quid pro quo seemed blatent.

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Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #110

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Gratuitous insults do not add to the conversation.

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Ya mean like calling people you've never met "idiots"?

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In rare cases, the facts may support such a conclusion. However, no one on this board is an idiot, so it doesn't add to the conversation and is unnecessarily provocative.

Enough, Cedric.

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #93

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And they're all makin' sweet moolah, running a nationwide political organization while you're sittin' there in your underwear, blazin' away on your Tandy TRS-80 (with dial-up) keyboard.

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And what are you doing to advance the cause? Oh yeah. Pimping a proven failure, Karl Rove, as some sort of political genious and defending the President who suspended Free Market Principles to save Free Market Principles. Good luck with that. Here is something you can post instead of wasting time with your lame arguments. This was popular at FR 10 years ago...



BTW, you have no idea what any of us around here do to get people elected to office. I have been working in state and local politics for decades. I know others here are involved on that level or higher too. Before you start running your mouth like you know something, you had better be educated or you will end up looking like a dumb ass. You wouldn't want that, would you?

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #107

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I'm sorry my point wasn't clear.

Let me try again.

Nerd has a really old, slow, piece of junk, computer.

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Nice spin. No one believes that is what you were saying. Are Nerds responses slow? Is he not able to read images that you are posting? Then why would a comment about the age of his computer be relevant?

The comment about underwear and an old computer eluded to the fact that you think he is some sort of whacked out nut living in his moms basement. I don't blame you for going in that direction though. If my arguments were as weak and disprovable as yours are, I would head into the personal slams too. Only difference is that my insults would be funnier and more creative.

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #113

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I'm glad there are lobbyists promoting Pro-Life legislation and, assuming they're effective, I hope the're well paid.

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There are other issues besides the Pro Life movement at stake here.

In fact who do you think wrote Obamacare legislation? As soon as people realize that political whores don't give a damn about anything other than their bank account and power then maybe the people would get pissed off enough to drain the swamp. Bottom line, the government is broken. The average citizen has been dumbed down and are happy with the few crumbs thrown at them to keep them distracted.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-12-07...johnson-johnson

http://www.aapsonline.org/index.php/arti..._door_lobbying/

Quote: Cedric wrote in post #116

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For which party?

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The Straight Talkin' American Government (STAG) party.